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La Casa Bianca ha fatto pressioni su S&P perché non tagliasse l'outlook (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza) L'amministrazione Obama avrebbe ripetutamente fatto pressioni sull'agenzia di rating Standard & Poor's perché non tagliasse l'outlook sul debito degli Stati Uniti. Lo rivela il Washington Post citando fonti confidenziali. L'azione del governo americano non sembra comunque aver avuto successo
 

tommy271

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Athens rebuffs European ‘cacophony’




Minister tries to quash default rumors, insists that 2012 access to bond markets is possible
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Finance Minister Giorgos Papaconstantinou responded on Wednesday to growing speculation that Greece will be forced to default by saying that the country can deal with its mountain of debt and insisted that renewed access to bond markets is still possible in 2012.
“I believe that Greece's debt is absolutely sustainable... But that is based on the implementation of the [2011-15] adjustment program,” he told reporters.
Papaconstantinou spoke as the country's borrowing costs remained high on speculation that Greece will have to restructure its debts. The difference between the interest rates on Greek and German 10-year bonds is over 11 percentage points.
Papaconstantinou again denied that restructuring is on the cards.
“It is a very interesting debate but we don't care to join in,” he said. “[Restructuring] would carry great dangers for the economy, [pension] funds and households.”
The spike in Greek borrowing rates, he argued, was due to a “cacophony” of conflicting statements by European finance officials on the restructuring issues.
As yields on Greek government bonds have hit new highs, some German officials and a growing number of analysts have expressed doubt that Athens would be able to go back to markets next year as planned under its bailout agreed to with the European Union and the International Monetary Fund.
The latest came from a member of German Chancellor Angela Merkel's council of economic advisers, Lars Feld, who said on Wednesday that Greece will probably have to restructure its debt and that bond buybacks are a possible solution.
Papaconstantinou said the government expected bond spreads to ease after the summer once a bailout loan with troubled Portugal is hammered out.
“I think the Portugal deal will get done and after the summer the picture in the markets will look quite different,” he said.
Unless Greece's borrowing costs ease it's going to be very difficult for the country to be able to tap long-term investors for cash by next year.
“Our intention remains to [return] to the markets as soon as possible and by early 2012 at the latest,” he said.






ekathimerini.com , Wednesday April 20, 2011 (17:48)
 

tommy271

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Borsa Atene: Ase chiude in ribasso del 2,6%



MILANO (MF-DJ)--La Borsa di Atene chiude le contrattazioni in ribasso del 2,6% a 1399,69 punti, in scia alle nuove preoccupazioni sulla potenziale ristrutturazione del debito sovrano della Grecia che hanno colpito il mercato.
In territorio negativo National Bank (-4,2%), Alpha (-8,4%) e Eurobank (-8,5%)
 

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UPDATE 2-Greece says debt sustainable, plans bonds in 2012






Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:26am EDT

* Greece rules out restructuring
* Still plans return to debt markets by early 2012
* Pins hopes on Portugal bailout, domestic reforms
* Reuters poll sees restructuring likely within 2 years
(Adds details, quotes, analyst comment)


By Harry Papachristou


ATHENS, April 20 (Reuters) - Greece said on Wednesday it still planned to issue bonds again by early 2012, betting that a Portuguese bailout this summer and reforms at home will calm markets that are increasingly factoring in a debt restructuring.
The cost of insuring Greek five-year government paper shot to a record high on Wednesday, topping Iceland's premium in 2008 when its financial system imploded as worries that Athens could end up forcing haircuts, or losses, on its debt holders gathered momentum.
But Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou said he considered Greece's debt -- expected to hit about 160 percent of GDP in 2012 -- "totally sustainable", and that a restructuring was out of the question.
"We believe it (a restructuring) harbours extreme dangers for the Greek economy, the banking system, businesses and households," he told reporters.
His refusal to consider a cutting on deal on repayments chimed in with recent comments by euro zone policymakers but contrasted sharply with latest market expectations.
In a Reuters poll published on Wednesday, 46 of 55 economists said they expected Greece would have to restructure in the next two years, most likely by extending maturities on its debt. [ID:nLDE73J1N8]
Papaconstantinou said the market mood might change after the summer, once Portugal clinches its bailout deal with the EU and IMF and Greek reforms gather pace.
Greece still assumes it will not need to borrow money from the EU's rescue fund, the EFSF, to cover a 27 billion euro gap in its finances next year, he said.
A plan to raise 15 billion euros from privatisations by the end of 2013 to pay down debt was feasible, and "our intention remains to go to markets as soon as possible and by early 2012 at the latest".
The country will also unveil in detail next month how it will gradually reduce its deficit from about 15 percent of GDP in 2009 to 1 percent of GDP in 2015, he added.




2012 ISSUANACE 'A NON-STARTER'




European Central Bank ratesetters Juergen Stark and Lorenzo Bini-Smaghi both recently warned against a Greek restructuring, saying it would hammer the country's banking system and damage Europe's credibility.
French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde also dismissed that option in comments to parliament on Tuesday. But rumours about an imminent restructuring pushed Greek bank stocks .FTATBNK 4.6 percent lower after Papaconstantinou's comments on Wednesday [ID:nATH006034], reflecting widespread scepticism in the market.
"The government's assessment is very optimistic," said Ken Wattret, economist at BNP Paribas. "The issue of going to the market as soon as 2012 looks like a non-starter."
He said it was unlikely that market sentiment will improve enough by next year to allow Greek borrowing costs to fall to sustainable levels.
"A more realistic assessment is that the EFSF will have to be used to cover Greece's financing gap."
 

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Debt Restructuring Speculation Drags Greek Stocks Down



Athens Stocks seem abstracted from the sentiment of international markets, trapped in a vicious cycle of rumors of unknown origin, while Greek bond spreads and CDS record new highs.

The General Index was forced into new heavy losses on Wednesday, losing 1,400 units for the first time since January 11.


Greek banks fell by 4.6%, recording a new 14-year low, with Eurobank and Alpha Bank posting losses that exceeded 8%, while National Bank’s capitalization is formed slightly above €5b.

Almost all of FTSE20 shares ended in red, however Viohalco soared by 8.18% and Jumbo rose by 4.13%.

Market analysts speak of unrestrained speculation that weighs heavily on the ASE. They explain that the market is run out of buyers and the supply is not absorbed, as even these low valuations seem unable to attract any interest. A slide of the General Index to new lows seems more and more likely, they add.

Growing hearsay about a possible restructuring of the Greek debt dominates the news flow, putting any micro or macro evolution into the shade, according to Pegasus Securities. Even with a well-intended approach, it cannot be ignored the persistence of certain circles to the upbringing of this issue, it added.


Moreover, "in the last hour of trading we saw renewed speculation over a debt restructuring and coming ahead of the Easter holidays, we saw a lot of people closing down their positions," a trader told Dow Jones Newswires.

Across the board, the General Index ended at 1,399.69 units, with losses of 2.62%, after a fluctuation into a range of 63.56 units or 4.42%. Approximately 38.52 million units worth €99.15m (€10.85m relating to Vivere “package”), while a total amount of 104 shares declined, 44 rose and 134 remained unchanged.

Banks ended at 1,047.29, down 4.58%. Eurobank and Alpha Bank fell by 8.45% and 8.44% respectively, while ATEbank, Piraeus Bank and National Bank declined by 6.25%, 5.13% and 4.20% respectively.

(capital.gr)
 

IL MARATONETA

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ciao,
direi di no, anche se la mia collocazione nei centristi è successiva (ricordi che all'inizio mi avevi messo nei moderatamente negativi.) Potreim andare anche tra i ragionevaolmente negativi. Non reputo impossibile un haicut del 70% se le cose dovessero girare in senso negativo. Infatti si tende a ragionare in ottica statica. Ma cosa succederebbe nel caso di evento finanziario ad oggi imprevisto che porti ulteriore destabilizzazione al mercato finanziario?
Poi io faccia fatica a vedere una netta differenza tra i 3 seguenti. La riduzione del nominale per me è default. Pilotato mi sembra una aggettivazione che non cambia la sostanza. Certo se fosse lo scenario di default "caos" da un giorno all'altro...non ci credo. Poi cosa intendi con coinvolgimento involontario?

Equidistanti o gruppo di centro: possibili scenari di riduzione del valore nominale del titolo, della cedola, allungamento scadenze, coinvolgimento involontario investitore, fino al default pilotato.
Moderatamente negativi: dfaukt, riduzione non superiore al 50% del valore dei titoli.
Ragionevolmente negativi: default, riduzione fino al 70% del valore nominale dei titoli


Disclaimer: ripeto che la mia negatività è in conflitto di interessi e al limite della follia usando i parametri gaudenteschi: oggi ho preso 10 k delle 40 a 49,7.....
sera giub, forse è meglio che tu rimanga tra i moderati, in altro posto saresti in conflitto di interessi...:D
 
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