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tommy271

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European Banks Eyeing Proposal Of Voluntary Holding Of Greek Bonds



The European Central Bank is expected to respond on Thursday afternoon to the proposal of German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schauble for the new adjustment of the Greek debt. The board of ECB, meeting on Thursday, will discuss the proposal for a new aid package, which provides the participation of private institutional investors by 1/3 in roll over of Greek debt maturing in 2012-2014.

ECB’s position, as expressed by both Jean-Claude Trichet and his successor Mario Draghi, is that private investors could not participate unless it is a genuinely voluntary agreement on holding of Greek bonds.

The distance between Schaeuble’s proposal and Trichet’s position refers to who will provide the conditions for a genuinely voluntary participation and not indirectly forced.


In such a case, Mario Draghi said on Wednesday, a destructive tsunami would follow both in Greece and other Eurozone countries. During Angela Merkel’s visit in Washington several obstacles have been overcome, as U.S. agreed that a sequel of Lehman Brothers case should be avoided at all costs. Washington believes that in the case of a Greek default, the second package of quantitative easing (QE2) could be at risk.

However, the European Commission and the French government stand by ECB’s position, while Wolfgang Schauble seems willing to negotiate terms that would rule out the possibility of an involuntary participation.

On Wednesday, Credit Agricole CEO said that the French bank would participate in a plan of roll over of Greek bonds, provided that European authorities would guarantee the conditions.

It should be noted that executives of JP Morgan, Credit Suisse and RBS seem to examine taking part in the plan, albeit with reservations about the technical part of the case.

However, German bankers seem more cautious and anticipate the final version of the proposal for the roll over of Greek debt through the holding of bonds by seven years.

In any case, yesterday’s teleconference between Eurogroup’s ministers confirmed that a formal debate on the new package should be approved even “in principle” at the European Summit, after troika reported that Greece won’t be able to access the markets in 2012 and that Greek debt is unsustainable.

(capital.gr)
 

tommy271

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Greece debt deal must not trigger credit event-Fekter






VIENNA, June 9 | Thu Jun 9, 2011 4:46am EDT

VIENNA, June 9 (Reuters) - Any debt deal for Greece that involves voluntary contributions from private creditors must not trigger a credit event in the eyes of rating agencies, Austrian Finance Minister Maria Fekter said on Thursday.
She told reporters that policymakers were discussing how such a plan might work and would make a decision once a model was in place, adding: "It has to be sustainable and not disturb the capital markets too much. Above all it cannot become a credit event."
 

sethi

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Mi sembra un timore ingiustificato, sia il leu che il fiorino che lo zloty hanno abbondantemente recuperato dai minimi contro euro e la loro situazione debitoria non e' assolutamente paragonabile alle voragini ellenico-lusitane-iberniche


oppure è l'euro che ha perso valore nei loro confronti?:D
 

lorixnt2

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Io andrei subito in banca a tirarmi fuori un pò di euro e ho l'impressione che non sarò l'unico, altro che comprare tds nostrani...


Ed invece, a mio avviso, Methos come per altro vado ripetendo ormai da qualche anno, bisognerebbe resistere a questa reazione che mi appare istintiva.
In fin dei conti noi viviamo qui o, per caso, tu vivi da un'altra parte? :)
 

tommy271

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Scordatevi le garanzie AAA e i bond Efsf


EU’s AAA States Want Collateral in Future Bailouts, Noonan Says

By Finbarr Flynn - Jun 9, 2011 10:32 AM GMT+0200 Thu Jun 09 08:32:52 GMT 2011




Michael Noonan, Irish finance minister, comments on negotiations among European Union states to allow countries providing bailouts to other member states to seek collateral from recipients. Noonan spoke at an event in Dublin yesterday.
On collateral proposals:
“A new concept, which is coming through to view now is AAA countries who have been guaranteeing the funds so far for Greece, Portugal and Ireland, are saying that in future if more money is required, they will take a lien on the national assets of certain countries, the same as the bank manager would take the deeds of your farm for a loan. That’s the latest trend from Europe now and we’ll see how it is played out in Europe over the next couple of weeks, it will be played out in Greece over the next two weeks.”
“It is still at the negotiation stage, obviously there will be resistance to it.”



(Bloomberg)


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Nobody's

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Schaeuble...non sono passati i tuoi genitori per il fiume sacro :D

Non passerai neppure tu :lol:

Qui ci si immola fino all' ultimo uomo.....per la cronaca :cool:
 

Imark

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Mi sembra un timore ingiustificato, sia il leu che il fiorino che lo zloty hanno abbondantemente recuperato dai minimi contro euro e la loro situazione debitoria non e' assolutamente paragonabile alle voragini ellenico-lusitane-iberniche

D'accordo, in linea di massima sono messi meglio ...

Lo zloty poi non credo sia più a rischio, dato che i polacchi hanno rinunciato alla data del 2014 per l'ingresso nell'euro, senza fissarne una nuova, se non mi sono perso qualcosa, per cui volendo potrebbero anche svalutare, ma non credo ne abbiano bisogno, visto che sono stati forse l'unica economia dell'est a non entrare in recessione tecnica dopo la crisi.

Per la Romania, il fardello debitorio pubblico è modesto e le misure di austerità per non accrescere la spesa pubblica sono state digerite molto meglio che in Grecia. Resta tuttavia il problema dei mutui ai privati in valute forti, con una percentuale piuttosto elevate di sofferenze già oggi, ed in crescita.

Molto nei guai però sono sia la Bulgaria, sia l'Ungheria.

Per la seconda debito/PIL piuttosto alto, forte dipendenza dai capitali esteri per il rifinanziamento del debito privato, circa 3/4 dei finanziamenti erogati ai privati dal sistema bancario denominati in valute diverse dal fiorino, quasi tutti in CHF, con blocco per legge fino al 2012 della possibilità di attivare procedure di recupero in caso di default sui mutui stessi.

La Bulgaria ha una percentuale di bad loans molto alta, prossima al 20%. Anche qui finanziamenti erogati in larga parte in valute estere e principalmente CHF.
 
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