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Athens’ ability to stay course in doubt

By Alan Beattie in Washington


Early details of the financing package for Greece that were emerging on Thursday may have given some comfort to the financial markets. In particular the reductions in interest rates on official loans from the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) may have convinced some investors that Ireland and Portugal could escape a major debt restructuring.
But whether the measures likely to be announced are enough to restore Greece to sustainability will depend heavily on the writedown achieved in the private sector holdings of Greek debt. And here, economists stressed, the uncertainty about what investors might accept and the limited reductions that seemed to be on offer were much less convincing.
Proposals based on the plan from the Institute of International Finance involve swapping around €135bn of privately-held debt into much longer-dated bonds, which would relieve the funding pressure on Greece by increasing the average maturity of its bonds from less than seven years to nearly twenty.
But estimates suggested that operation would write down the net present value of debt by only around 20 per cent, much lower than most calculations of the necessary reduction.
Economists said that meant Greece would struggle to achieve sustainability even with cheaper official lending. Jacob Funk Kierkegaard at the Peterson Institute of International Economics in Washington said that, based on the sketchy early details circulating in the summit, Greece was still likely to end up with a debt burden comfortably above 100 per cent of gross domestic product.
“This package establishes some useful principles including cheaper loans from the EFSF and the idea that debt restructuring will happen only in insolvent countries like Greece, not illiquid governments like Italy’s,” he said. “But by and of itself it is not going to put Greece on a sustainable path”.
The forecasts in the eurozone and International Monetary Fund programme involved optimistic assumptions about growth and tax revenue, he said. “Absent a dramatic improvement in the business climate or Greece raising money by selling off its islands, I still think it is going to be a struggle to get investors to have confidence in Greece with such a high debt burden,” Mr Kierkegaard said.
“This package may put Ireland and Portugal on sustainable paths, but it is unlikely to be the end of the story for Greece,” he said.

(Financial Times)

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Ho in mente una pazzia ma di quelle Grosse...che al confronto..quella del 2011 fa sorridere. ..ci penso questa notte...e postero' solo se faro' gli eseguiti....o nulla...Buonanotte...Coraggiosi...

...non dirmi che adesso "vuoi farti" una perpetua greca??? :lol::lol::lol:

non dirglielo a gaudente altrimenti gli viene voglia!!! :eek::eek: :lol::lol:

E cmq direi che senza il costante aggiornamento del "nostro capitano Tommy" sarebbe stata dura avere le news in real time!!!

GRAZIE GRAZIE GRAZIE

TI MERITI UNA VACANZA IN GRECIA PAGATA DA TUTTI NOI... :D
 
Athens’ ability to stay course in doubt

By Alan Beattie in Washington


Early details of the financing package for Greece that were emerging on Thursday may have given some comfort to the financial markets. In particular the reductions in interest rates on official loans from the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) may have convinced some investors that Ireland and Portugal could escape a major debt restructuring.
But whether the measures likely to be announced are enough to restore Greece to sustainability will depend heavily on the writedown achieved in the private sector holdings of Greek debt. And here, economists stressed, the uncertainty about what investors might accept and the limited reductions that seemed to be on offer were much less convincing.
Proposals based on the plan from the Institute of International Finance involve swapping around €135bn of privately-held debt into much longer-dated bonds, which would relieve the funding pressure on Greece by increasing the average maturity of its bonds from less than seven years to nearly twenty.
But estimates suggested that operation would write down the net present value of debt by only around 20 per cent, much lower than most calculations of the necessary reduction.
Economists said that meant Greece would struggle to achieve sustainability even with cheaper official lending. Jacob Funk Kierkegaard at the Peterson Institute of International Economics in Washington said that, based on the sketchy early details circulating in the summit, Greece was still likely to end up with a debt burden comfortably above 100 per cent of gross domestic product.
“This package establishes some useful principles including cheaper loans from the EFSF and the idea that debt restructuring will happen only in insolvent countries like Greece, not illiquid governments like Italy’s,” he said. “But by and of itself it is not going to put Greece on a sustainable path”.
The forecasts in the eurozone and International Monetary Fund programme involved optimistic assumptions about growth and tax revenue, he said. “Absent a dramatic improvement in the business climate or Greece raising money by selling off its islands, I still think it is going to be a struggle to get investors to have confidence in Greece with such a high debt burden,” Mr Kierkegaard said.
“This package may put Ireland and Portugal on sustainable paths, but it is unlikely to be the end of the story for Greece,” he said.
bravo tommy; non hai mai mollato.complimenti:cool:
 
EU Summit's Second Annual Greek Bailout: Three “Slight Problems"

Here’s our take on preliminary news from the EU summit on the second annual Greek bailout. Short version: they’ve done a decent job – of insuring we get a third annual default threat somewhere.
They’ve gone from kicking the can down the road to rolling a larger snowball of potential trouble that just keeps getting larger the farther away it rolls.
We see 3 key problems

  1. Private sector “involvement,” aka losses, are still very much on the menu: However, these very significant, ahem, “details” have yet to be worked out. As ECB head Trichet and others have warned, once the precedent is set that the EU will no longer fully guarantee member bonds, yields on ALL GIIPS sovereign bonds will rise beyond what these nations may be able to pay. Why would anyone buy these bonds without a yield high enough to compensate for the likely “burden sharing” losses of unknown degree awaiting at some point later?

  1. The EU has now upped the bill for saving the other GIIPS, whose leaders will not be able to face their voters, who will be expecting equal concessions. Why not? Portugal, Ireland, and especially Spain can flash the blade of default and contagion threat under the EU’s nose.

  1. Moral hazard plus lack of unified budgeting controls, in addition to the above 2 problems with the latest Second Annual Greek Bailout means we’ve no reason to believe we won’t be facing a third annual default threat next year
EUleaders must know this too, so again, it appears they’ve opted for yet another band aid solution though a bigger one that might hold longer. We’re not so sure it will, for the same reason as ECB Head Trichet and others believe, because of problem 1 – why would anyone buy GIIPS bonds unless at extremely high yield to compensate for likely ‘burden sharing’ losses of unknown magnitude in the future? Higher GIIPS borrowing costs mean they all move closer to default and towards igniting another Lehman style contagion of greater magnitude.
Add problems 2 and 3, and it seems clear the EU is still essentially just kicking the can down the road. Only now the can has become a snowball of overspending and debt that keeps getting larger the farther down the road it rolls.
How To Profit
We’re still in the crisis stage in which markets gyrate on the latest hope or fear. Today was a hope day that fed a risk asset rally. How long before markets wake up to the above problems and relapse?
Thus the EU situation alone is enough to keep out downside safe haven asset bias. Toss on the ongoing US debt ceiling mess, and that compounds the situation. Even if a deal is reached, as we suspect it will be, failure to take decisive action in a timely manner has undermined US credibility, as it did with the EU last year.
We refrain from new longs in risk assets, and look to establish new shorts in risk assets and longs in gold, as more money will be printed on both sides of the Atlantic.
 
bravo tommy; non hai mai mollato.complimenti:cool:

In questi casi è stato giusto seguire le news che giungevano dai paesi anglofoni (quasi tutte unidirezionali come i loro anal-isti che si parlano solo tra di loro al telefono) ma anche aver dato il giusto spazio alla voce dei greci e al dibattito politico che si svolgeva in Europa.
La decisione da prendere era essenzialmente politica.
E' qui che andavano cercati i possibili esiti ... positivi o negativi.
 
...non dirmi che adesso "vuoi farti" una perpetua greca??? :lol::lol::lol:

non dirglielo a gaudente altrimenti gli viene voglia!!! :eek::eek: :lol::lol:

E cmq direi che senza il costante aggiornamento del "nostro capitano Tommy" sarebbe stata dura avere le news in real time!!!

GRAZIE GRAZIE GRAZIE

TI MERITI UNA VACANZA IN GRECIA PAGATA DA TUTTI NOI... :D

già chissà l'effetto sulle banche greche e relative perpetue, se restano nel limbo attuale o si riprendono

target per i prezzi secondo voi?
imho il prezzo convergerà al valore corrispondente allo swap delle banche;
altrimenti le banche stesse sarebbero interessate a vendere sul secondario piuttosto che rollare.
Idee e pensieri?
 
Greece creditors get 4 options under rescue plan










BRUSSELS/LONDON | Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:55pm EDT

BRUSSELS/LONDON (Reuters) - Four options will be offered to Greece's private sector creditors to contribute to the government's bailout, including debt exchange and rollover plans as well as a bond buyback scheme, the leading bank lobby group said.
The Institute of International Finance on Thursday said the bond exchange would help reduce Greece's debt pile by 13.5 billion euros, and by offering a menu of new instruments it aims to attract 90 percent investor participation in the plan.
It said this would provide financing to Greece of 54 billion euros from mid-2011 to mid-2014 and a total of 135 billion euros from mid-2011 to end-2020.
The net private sector contribution would amount to 17 billion euros, according to a separate document seen by Reuters earlier.
Greece's debt profile will be improved substantially with the exchange and roll-over program extending average maturities of privately held claims from 6 to 11 years, the IIF said.
In addition to the private sector plan, Greece's debt will be cut by "potentially much more through a debt buyback program that is to be defined by the official sector," the IIF said.
"This offer is part of a comprehensive package which involves a balance of interest for all parties," said Josef Ackermann, IIF chairman and the head of Deutsche Bank. "The private investor community will benefit from a more stable financial and economic environment," he said.
Banks agreeing to participate include Deutsche Bank, HSBC, BNP Paribas and insurer Allianz.
The debt exchanges, lending and rollovers will take place at rates that are broadly comparable to that being extended by the EU and the new instruments will have significantly longer maturities of up to 30 years, the IIF document said.
The four instruments involve a bond exchange at par into a 30-year instrument; a bond offer at par involving rolling-over maturing Greek government bonds into 30 year instruments; a discount bond exchange at 80 percent of par into a 30-year instrument; and a discount bond exchange at 80 percent of par into a 15-year instrument.
The interest on the first two instruments is equivalent to a fixed rate of 4.5 percent, on the third it is 6.42 percent and on the fourth it is 5.9 percent.
 
GRECIA: PAPANDREU, PIANO AIUTI ALLEGGERISCE FARDELLO POPOLO

Il pacchetto di aiuti da 109 miliardi approvato oggi dai leader dell'Eurozona 'alleggerisce il fardello che pesa sul popolo greco': lo ha detto, al termine del vertice straordinario, il premier greco George Papandreu. 'Abbiamo ora un programma e un pacchetto di decisioni che creano un percorso sostenibile per la Grecia, e una sostenibile gestione del debito greco' .

(larepubblica.it)
 
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