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Bene, come dicevo, alla Merkel sembra servire spazio vitale stavolta non tocca alla Polonia, ma alla Grecia. In realtà è da un po', stando a quanto sento, che la Germania guarda con occhio lubrico ai paesi dell'est, poveri ma belli.

E per quanto riguarda il fatto che la Bundesbank non vuole che i pupi crescano viziati, è sempre la stessa solfa. In realtà non vogliono l'€ quando va male, quando va bene lo vogliono tutti.

Il teatrino della domenica, resto preoccupato per i TdS nostrani.
 
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Markets focus on detail of Greek bailout

Euphoria following the eurozone leaders' agreement to bailout Greece gradually faded yesterday.
Markets scrutinised the details of the deal and investors turned their attentions to the American debt deadlock.
Having surged on Thursday in anticipation of a resolution, markets rallied on Friday morning following news of a new aid package for Greece. But, they eased from their early highs amid fears the measures to contain Greece's debt crisis will not be enough to quell regional turmoil.
The FTSE 100 rose 35.13 points to 5,935.02, chalking up a 1.6pc gain on the week. Although investors welcomed the Greek deal, there was anxiety over the struggle to raise the US debt ceiling to avert a default. Germany's DAX (Xetra: ^GDAXI - news) rose 36.25 points to 7326.39 and France's CAC (Xetra: 924169 - news) climbed 25.95 points to 3842.7.
The euro initially made gains but later weakened as investors focused on how the Greek rescue package will be implemented. Amid relief at the deal, Greek 10-year bond yields narrowed to 13.7pc, having been trading at around 17.6pc last Friday.
But, Spanish and Italian 10-year bond yields began to widen again, reaching 5.7pc and 5.4pc respectively.
In a sign that investors were once again heading to safe havens, gold rose $7 to $1,604 and German government bonds extended gains.
Andrew Lim, a financials analyst at Espirito Santo, said: "While we see some positives coming out of the resolutions, we still do not believe the overall European debt crisis is solved yet.
"We would not be buying into this rally for absolute upside as the concern remains, in our view, that other risky sovereigns (including Italy and Spain) may yet default."
 

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certo che gli inglesi picchiano ancora forte...

GREEK BAILOUT FAILS TO CALM EU DEBT CONTAGION WORRIES

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Greek Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos
Saturday July 23,2011
THE euro lost ground and stock markets retreated from earlier gains yesterday as initial euphoria over the latest rescue package for Greece failed to lay to rest wider concerns over the eurozone’s sovereign debt.
Leading shares extended Thursday’s bounce as investors welcomed the announcement of ¤159billion (£140billion) in new aid for Greece, under a deal which will see major European banks writing down the value of their Greek securities by 21 per cent as part of a bond exchange and debt buyback programme.
A fall in borrowing costs for Italy and Spain also softened worries that larger eurozone countries may require a bailout.
But the FTSE 100 Index saw nearly half of its earlier £17billion gains wiped out, closing up 35.1 points at 5935, as investors weighed up how effective the measures would prove over time. The euro, which had jumped nearly 1.5 per cent against the dollar on Thursday, was down 0.4 per cent against the US currency and sterling.
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The euro lost ground and stock markets retreated from earlier gains yesterday
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Economists and strategists ­welcomed the move by EU leaders as a step in the right direction but one which fell short of building a credible firewall against contagion. They warned the debt swap did little to improve the solvency of the Greek state and a default was inevitable.
This was underlined by ratings agency Fitch, which said it would reduce Greece as an issuer of bonds to “restricted default” in the event of debts being rolled over or swapped.
Broker Credit Suisse argued: “This is by no means a definitive solution. There are gaps and areas of uncertainty. Markets are unlikely to conclude that the measures to improve Greek government debt sustainability are enough. There’s plenty of scope for disappointments in the weeks and months ahead.
Gary Jenkins, head of fixed income research at Evolution Securities, expressed doubts over whether private sector participation would be “exceptional and unique” to Greece.
He said: “Clearly they are desperate to stop contagion but does anyone really believe that if Portugal or Ireland needed a further bailout that they would not use the Greek template?
“The economic performance of these countries will dictate whether or not the EU’s resolve to avoid ­private sector involvement in the future will be put to the test.”
Forex.com research director ­Kathleen Brooks said the stuttering performance of financial markets ­following the initial surge suggested they were “starting to ponder the limitations of the EU summit deal and whether it will truly solve the problem of contagion”.
 
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Greek bailout gives respite, not remedy



Posted: Jul 23, 2011 at 1045 hrs IST

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Euro zone leaders have treated a symptom aggressively with their second bailout plan of Greece, but for many investors the underlying condition remains and could flare up again as soon as summer is out. As Barclays Capital put it so succinctly on Friday morning: "More than expected but not enough to make us sleep comfortably."
Investors will be heaving a sign of relief that a bailout was agreed, especially as it included some respite for Ireland and Portugal, beefed up the bloc's future crisis-fighting mechanisms and did not wallop private bond holders too hard.
The morning-after mood was encapsulated by the euro rising around 1 percent against the Swiss franc.
The latter has been the safe-haven currency of choice during the debt crisis, a far better gauge of investor attitude than the euro-dollar rate, which carries a lot of U.S. debt baggage with it.
The euro had lost as much as 13 percent against the Swiss currency since early April.
Risk appetite was already rising ahead of the decision, so Friday's rather modest two-thirds of a percent rise on the pan-European FTSEurofirst 300 stock index, should be put in context as a nearly 3 percent rise in four sessions.
"The (bailout) plans are better than expected," said Lukas Daalder, senior strategist at Dutch fund firm Robeco.
He added, however, that his firm had not been expecting much and that there are many issues still to be dealt with.
"There is an opening, but we are not there yet," he said.
MACRO AND MICRO
It would be churlish to suggest that the euro zone package has only put off the problem. Investors were surprised by its scope and did not appear to view it as merely another case of the bloc "kicking the can down the road", as the cliche goes.
On the contrary, some investors were lifted by proposed greater flexibility in the European Financial Stability Facility, which is seen as now providing some protection.
"It tips the risk reward a bit more towards favouring risk assets because there is a new shield," said Andrew Bosomworth, a vice president at PIMCO Europe.
Evidence of that could be seen on 10-year Italian bonds, where the yield was down around 5.26 percent versus a record above 6 percent on Monday -- arguably one of the triggers that got the EU moving at the summit.
Bailout countries Greece, Portugal and Ireland are flies on the donkey compared with what a bankrupt Italy would mean.
But there remain major issues at both the macro and micro level that weigh against any market hope that the crisis will go away completely and stop acting as a global brake on risk appetite.
The micro is essentially a question of details. The European Union has a long history of reaching broad agreements and then getting tangled up in their implementation.
Given the fury with which investors and financial markets had begun to react to delays in the run up to Thursday's summit, any further squabbles would probably not be treated benignly.
"It is to be welcomed that the toolbox to tackle the crisis has been expanded considerably and made more flexible," Michael Heise, chief economist of insurer Allianz, said in a statement to Reuters.
"The key now is to press ahead swiftly with implementation of the decisions and not get bogged down in a row about the details."
PATCHED UP
The bigger problem for investors is that the agreement -- for all its scope -- is a patch up not a cure.
The peripheral countries of the euro zone have run into debt problems because they are hugely uncompetitive and cannot devalue their currency, the classic way of dealing with such a condition.
Neither of these issues changes as a result of the deal. Nor, for that matter, has the underlying attitudes of the electorates -- Greeks furious at having harsh austerity imposed on them, for example, or Germans unwilling to pay the bills.
Alessandro Bee, an economist at Swiss wealth manager Bank Sarasin, reckons this means the crisis has not been solved and indeed could rise up again quickly if economic projections for Europe prove optimistic.
But that was not the main significance of the package.
"The first task is for these countries to survive. They can do some body building later," he said.
Implicit in this kind of thinking is that the euro zone's prescription should tide the patient over for a while, but that the long-term prognosis will need to be revisited.
For financial markets, that probably means a hiatus from euro zone crisis panic -- perhaps with some increase in appetite for riskier assets.
But how long that lasts will depend on how long the peripheral economies, particularly Greece's, can use the help they have been given to mend themselves and keep qualifying for the aid.
"We can take vacation," PIMCO's Bosomworth said. "But come back in September when the next disbursement is due and it will be all eyes back on Athens."
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gianfranco199

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Salta il tavolo tra la Casa Bianca e l'opposizione sul tetto per il debito. Il nodo del disaccordo sono le agevolazioni fiscali per i più ricchi. Oggi alle 17 (le 11 negli Usa) incontro con i leader dei due partiti: "Soluzione prima della riapertura delle Borse".Prepariamoci ad un lunedì nero,se non trovano un accordo.
 

tommy271

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GRECIA: UN DEFAULT DA SOGNO


Finalmente il giorno del rimbalzo è arrivato, dirompente come un temporale a lungo atteso nella calura estiva.
A far da detonatore la riunione dell'Eurogruppo conclusasi giovedì sera con il via libera ad un'inaspettato e congruo pacchetto a favore della Grecia.
Un rimbalzo che ha preso l'avvio lentamente, negli ultimi giorni, per poi mostrarsi più pesantemente nella giornata di venerdì. Un recupero di oltre 300 pb nel corso delle ultime sedute, tanto quanto il differenziale tra Italia e Germania.
Il Piano "Marshall" approntato per la Grecia prenderà l'avvio a settembre e si articola su diversi piani, tutti indirizzati a far ritornare ad un livello di "sostenibilità" il debito pubblico che, senza correttivi, rischia di sfuggire di mano.
Molto sommariamente possiamo dire che si è deciso di allungare i termini della restituzione dei prestiti contratti con la Troika, dagli iniziali 3 anni siamo passati questa primavera ai 7 anni e mezzo ed ora con il nuovo piano passeranno tra i 15 e i 30 anni con una ulteriore riduzione del tasso di interesse intorno al 3,5%.
Contemporaneamente si cercherà di agire sull'economia "reale" con lo sblocco di circa 12 miliardi di fondi strutturali UE che serviranno da volano per far ripartire i grandi progetti infrastrutturali in Grecia, al momento bloccati dalla mancanza di liquido. Sono un contributo per cercare di riavviare la spinta verso un ritorno alla crescita, ormai da tre anni in fase recessiva.
Gli investitori "istituzionali" daranno il loro contributo (più avanti il testo dell'IIF) con alcune opzioni di concambio sui bond in loro possesso: dallo swap al rollaggio.
Lo stato greco sarà messo nelle condizioni di poter riacquistare parte del debito già emesso sul secondario, a prezzi notevolmente inferiori rispetto al nominale, con prestiti indirizzati ad effettuare operazioni di buy-back.
Per ultimo, ma di fondamentale importanza, sarà messo in condizioni di operare anche sul secondario l'EFSF che potrà acquistare i titoli di stato dei periferici in difficoltà per alleggerire le pressioni speculative sugli stessi. Potrà inoltre partecipare alle ricapitalizzazioni delle banche dell'eurozona in difficoltà.
Insomma, un pacchetto completo in grado di rimettere la Grecia al riparo - sino a tutto il 2014 - dai movimenti speculativi.


Nella tarda giornata di venerdì Fitch non ha perso tempo per far sapere la propria opinione e, credo, a ruota arriveranno le altre due sorelle.
Con ogni probabilità verrà deciso di declassare il rating sui GGB a "selective default".
Secondo Fitch la proposta di "scambio" del debito comporterà una perdita del 20% sul valore a bilancio per le banche. Uno scambio che offra nuovi titoli, nuove scadenze, a condizioni peggiori delle originarie costituisce evento di default.
Una volta terminata l'operazione di swap/rollaggio, Fitch assegnerà poi i nuovi rating che saranno certamente superiori alla "D", ma rimarranno in fascia "junk".
Lo stato di "selective default" potrebbe durare ore o giorni, il tempo utile per effettuare l'operazione da parte degli interessati.
Non è ancora chiarissimo se lo stato di "SD" verrà mantenuto solo sui titoli oggetti dell'offerta di concambio, oppure verrà estesa su tutti i titoli di stato indifferentemente dalle scadenze.
In un caso analogo, avvenuto nel 2003, l'Uruguay rimase in SD per diverse settimane: dal 16 maggio al 2 giugno.


I timori sono ora indirizzati verso gli altri periferici dell'eurozona.
Abbiamo visto, sempre nella giornata di venerdì, in concomitanza del restringimento dello spread ellenico un ritorno della tensione su BTP e Bonos.
I movimenti speculativi cercheranno di infilarsi ora su altri fronti, dopo aver spremuto i greci. In prima linea resta la Spagna affiancata dall'Italia, il boccone più prelibato grazie alla liquidità dei suoi titoli, poi il Belgio con un occhio ormai rivolto verso la Francia.
Bisognerà quindi cercare di stringere i tempi e mettere subito in campo l'operatività dell'EFSF. Questa potrà essere decisiva per sbarrare la strada a qualunque tentativo di scardinare l'insieme del Club Med.
L'Europa ha dato prova di essere capace di uno scatto d'orgoglio.
Ha dimostrato che, nonostante le diversità, il destino comune di tutti rimane la moneta unica.
Nelle difficoltà del momento è stata data una prima risposta: una volontà di maggiore coesione e politiche di bilancio volte al risanamento.
L'Euro è solo l'inizio di una lunga storia.


I dati macro che ci sono giunti nel fine settimana non sono particolarmente incoraggianti.
Lo sforamento, dovuto alla persistente cappa recessiva, degli obiettivi del deficit/Pil è significativa. Con ogni probabilità richiederà una nuova manovra a settembre/ottobre per rimettere in carreggiata i conti pubblici.
Secondo i dati disponibili per il semestre gennaio-giugno 2011, il deficit statale ammonta a 12.747 milioni rispetto ad un target di 10.374 milioni previsto per il bilancio 2011. Durante lo stesso periodo, nel 2010, il deficit di bilancio dello Stato ammontava a 9.997 milioni di euro.
Lo sforamento è dovuto principalmente ai ricavi inferiori alle aspettative.
Mentre invece le spese del bilancio ordinario sono aumentate del 8,8% rispetto allo stesso periodo del 2010.
Questo è dovuto principalmente alla maggiore spesa per interessi, pari a 1.277 milioni e alle sovvenzioni per i fondi di previdenza sociale a seguito della riduzione delle entrate dei contributi previdenziali.


Qui potete leggere nel dettaglio la complessa manovra che ci riguarda più direttamente:
the members of the IIF and other major financial institutions extend a financing offer to Greece. We welcome the intension of the EU to improve the terms of its financial assistance to Greece, including lower interest rates, extended maturities and a more flexible and a broader scope of operations for the EFSF. As part of a comprehensive plan, including additional support by the IMF and the redoubling of adjustment efforts by Greece, we are prepared to participate in a voluntary program of debt exchange and a buyback plan developed by the Greek government. In summary, the program involves an exchange of existing Greek government bonds into a combination of four instruments together with the Greek Debt Buyback Facility.
Four Instruments: (Refer to the Term Sheet for details)
1) A Par Bond Exchange into a 30 year instrument
2) A Par Bond offer involving rolling-over maturing Greek government bond i
nto 30 year instruments
3) A Discount Bond Exchange into a 30 year instrument
4) A Discount Bond Exchange into a 15 year instrument
For instruments, 1, 2 and 3 the principal is fully collateralized by 30 year zero coupon AAA Bonds. For instrument 4, the principal is partially collateralized through funds held in an escrow account.
It is assumed that investors will select among the four instruments in equal proportions of 25% of total participation. All instruments will be priced to produce a 21% Net Present Value (NPV) loss based on an assumed discount rate of 9%. The terms outlined in the Term Sheet are broadly comparable to those of the official sector. The interest rates are structured to maximize the benefits to Greece in the early years of the program as Greece regains access to global capital market.
For example, the coupon on the Par Bond will be 4% during the first five years, 4.5% during the next five years, and 5% for years 2011-2030. Based on a target participation rate of 90%, the private sector investors through this program will contribute 54 billion eur from mid-2011 through mid-2014 and a total of 135 billion eur to the financing of Greece from mid-2011 to end-2020.
In addition to this assured financing, this program will also improve significantly the maturity profile of Greece's debt, increasing the average maturity from an average of 6 years to 11 years.
The size of the Buyback Facility will be determined after further discussions involving the official sector. It is expected to be of sufficient scale that when combined with the 13.5 billion debt reduction through the discount bond exchange, there will be a meaningful reduction in the stock of Greece's debt relative to GDP. This will be reinforced by Greece's new privatization program and prospects for higher growth which should emerge as the program takes hold.
We consider this offer to be unique given the exceptional circumstances of Greece. Not withstanding the progress made by Greece during the last one and a half years, the scale of Greece's economic imbalances and the inefficiencies that have been embedded in its economic structures require a special approach that can enhance debt sustainability and restore confidence in the future of the Greek economy.

The offer is already supported by the financial institutions listed in Annex 2, and we expect support to build as the offer and the comprehensive program surrounding it is more widely disseminated.
Our offer is conditioned on the comprehensive economic reform program of Greece, the strong support of the EU, which has just been reinforced, and additional support by the IMF.
Term Sheet - Instruments and technical aspects
1. A Par Bond Exchange into a new 30 year instrument with the principal collateralized by 30 year zero-coupon AAA rated bonds. The zero coupon bonds are purchased using EFSF funds. Greece pays the funding costs to the EFSF. The principal is repaid to the investor using the proceeds of the maturity of the zero-coupon bonds.
The coupon paid to the investor has the following structure:
Period Coupon
Years 1 - 5 4%
Years 6 - 10 4.5%
Years 11 - 30 5%
This is equivalent to a 4.5% fixed coupon rate.
Assumed participation rate: 25% of total exchange.

2. A Par Bond offered at par value as a Committed Financing Facility to roll into new 30 year par bond at the time the current claim matures. The principal is collateralized using the same mechanism as for instrument 1.
The coupon paid to the investor has the following structure:
Period Coupon
Years 1 - 5 4%
Years 6 - 10 4.5%
Years 11 - 30 5%
This is equivalent to a flat 4.5% fixed coupon rate.
Assumed participation rate: 25% of total exchange.

3. A Discount Bond Exchange offered at 80% of par into a new 30 year instrument. The principal is collateralized using the same mechanism as for instrument 1.
The coupon paid to the investor has the following structure:
Period Coupon
Years 1 - 5 6%
Years 6 - 10 6.5%
Years 11 - 30 6.8%
This is equivalent to a flat 6.42% fixed coupon rate.
Assumed participation rate: 25% of total exchange

4. A Discount Bond Exchange offered at 80% of par value for a 15 year instrument. The principal is partially collateralized with 80% of losses being covered up to a maximum of 40% of the notional value of the new instrument. The collateral is provided by funds held in escrow. These funds are borrowed by Greece from the EFSF. The EFSF funding costs are covered by the interest earned on the funds in the escrow account so there is no funding cost to Greece of this collateral. The funds in escrow are returned to the EFSF on maturity, if not used, and the principal on the bond is repaid by Greece.
The coupon paid to the Investor is 5.9%.
Assumed participation rate: 25% of total exchange.
The rates presented here are indicative only based on today's market conditions. Final pricing will be based on a fixed margin over the relevant Euro mid-swap rate at the time of execution. All instruments will be priced to be economically equivalent at 21% NPV discount calculated at a discount rate of 9%. Coupons quoted are fixed, annual rates.

 
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Triplo Panico: comprare
accredito, loss e coraggiosi

Buona mattinata, senza dover scrivere questa volta "si fa per dire".
Intanto stamane vedo finalmente anche le cedole della 2017 4,30% con valuta 21, che investirò sui titoli patriottici, a treno mezzo partito, come sembra :rolleyes:.
Guardo il mio ptf italo-greco e immagino anche quello degli altri amici. Non c'è che dire, un balzo enorme rispetto a prima dell'accordo, però sempre in discreto loss.
I primi ad andare in gain ieri sono stati i coraggiosi che, dotati di buona liquidità (e coraggio) e mediando al ribasso, erano riusciti a portare il pmc medio dei vari titoli nei giorni neri intorno a 55/60 (si va a spanne). Poi vi è la schiera di altri coraggiosi (tra cui mi ci metterei io) che hanno finito prima la liquidità e si trovano con un pmc medio intorno a 65/75. Se nei prossimi giorni i titoli continueranno a salire, come dovrebbe essere, anche questi potrebbero andare in gain.
Altri amici, che hanno mediato poco al ribasso (come giustamente suggerisce l'AT) o non hanno voluto superare una percentuale determinata del portafoglio, es. Tommy (anche questo indice di razionale pianificazione del rischio), si dovrebbero trovare intorno a 80/90 di pmc.
Ne usciranno bene, più tardi, anche costoro, perchè mi sembra inverosimile che, dopo tutti gli sforzi fatti e i trasferimenti finanziari significativi alla Grecia, l'Europa politica dichiari il proprio fallimento tra due, tre o quattro anni.
Con la Grecia salvata in modo solidale, questa Europa è ancora presentabile ai popoli europei. Viva L'Italia, la nostra Patria, e viva l'Europa (che fra decenni potrebbe diventare la nostra seconda Patria), che ha saputo fermarsi ancora una volta prima del baratro!
Nessuno, e di questo ne ero quasi certo, si è voluto prendere la responsabilità di uccidere l'Idea!
Vedo con più serenità il futuro dei miei figli.
Ciao, ciao, Giuseppe
 
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