Titoli di Stato area Euro GRECIA Operativo titoli di stato - Cap. 3 (12 lettori)

tommy271

Forumer storico
Riguardo al lavoro mi chiedo come mai Syriza insiste sul salario minimo per legge o legale? Perché non si rifanno, ad es. al modello italiano, in cui non vige alcun salario minimo legale. Infatti ristabilendo la contrattazione collettiva sarà in sede di contrattazione sindacale, di categoria o confederale, a stabilire il salario minimo o sindacale. Non riesco a capire perché tanto accanimento sul salario minimo per legge.

Diciamo che poi andrebbe distinto tra imprese pubbliche e private ... questione complessa.

Al momento sappiamo che c'è disponibilità ad incrementare il salario minimo entro un arco temporale piuttosto ampio ... leggevo di alcune proposte per legarlo anche a step, in rapporto all'andamento di determinati fattori (pil ecc).
 

tommy271

Forumer storico
Si riunisce alle ore 12.00 del Gruppo Trading Policy presso la Maximos Mansion

2015/05/30 - 11:51


Al cuore troverà l'accordo con i creditori





Alla presenza del primo ministro Alexis Tsipras si riunirà a mezzogiorno, alle 12:00, il Gruppo Trading Policy presso la Maximos Mansion.

Al centro si trova la accordo con i suoi creditori, lo sguardo parte greca per raggiungere nelle prossime 24 ore.

Alla riunione prenderà in considerazione la possibilità di Alexis Tsipras continuare ad avere contatti telefonici con i leader stranieri, al fine di chiudere immediatamente l'affare.

Soddisfatto, comunque, il governo greco sembra intervento presumibilmente ha fatto il cancelliere tedesco Angela Merkel, al fine di giungere a un compromesso.

Particolare soddisfazione per l'intervento americano, in quanto questo viene interpretato come una misura di pressione per accettare e si ritira da istituti di credito.

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tommy271

Forumer storico
Speriamo che tutto l'ottimismo non sia dentro al vino và.

Sono astemio :lol:.
Solo bibite gassate :-o :D.

La mia ipotesi resta sempre in piedi ... accordo rapido in due fasi, per liberare liquidità e rimborsare la BCE a luglio/agosto.

In concomitanza a questo, uno script che indichi in una seconda fase (in autunno?) una riforma previdenziale e del mercato del lavoro ... partecipata da un pool di specialisti di livello internazionale che dovranno indicare le possibili soluzioni da adottare.

In base ai lavori di queste ultimi, un'apertura alla ristrutturazione del debito pubblico.
 

apino

Forumer storico
Buona parte delle maggiori banche d'investimento quotano le "grexit" intorno al 40/50%.

Detto questo, sappiamo, che è possibile fare default rimanendo entro la moneta unica.

I prezzi attuali scontano quest'ultimo scenario.

Viceversa con la "grexit" avremmo quotazioni drammaticamente sotto le attuali, con i 3/5 anni con prezzi equiparati ai trentennali.

Da aprile maggio lo spread non è risalito sopra i 1100 circa, e la curva dei tassi e'ancora brutta. Doppi minimi sui gr già fatti sempre tra aprile e maggio. I minimi sono questi, e le quotazioni si, riflettono la scommessa rosso/nero. O salta tutto e con default e imminente rischio Grexit ci si avvia per inversione sui tassi molto più marcata e appiattimento dei prezzi in area 25, (in caso di Grexit a livello gelato :D ) viceversa ... Secondo me si apre uno scenario di spread in area 500 con il decennale in area 0,85.

Son dentro anche io, è' un opportunità interessante, ma sicuramente non è un gol a porta vuota. I trapani quando arrivano... Lo fanno sempre con il silenziatore e con le punte rotanti :D
 
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GiveMeLeverage

& I will remove the world
Markets | Sat May 30, 2015 5:30am EDT
Greece open to compromise to seal deal this week: interior minister

ATHENS

Greece's government is confident of reaching a deal with its creditors this week and is open to pushing back parts of its anti-austerity program to make that happen, the country's interior minister said Saturday.

Greece and its EU/IMF creditors have been locked in talks for months on a cash-for-reforms deal and pressure is growing for a deal, since Athens risks default without aid from a bailout program that expires on June 30.
"We believe that we can and we must have a solution and a deal within the week," Interior Minister Nikos Voutsis, who is not involved in Greece's talks with the lenders, told Skai television.
"Some parts of our program could be pushed back by six months or maybe by a year, so that there is some balance," he said.
He did not elaborate on what parts of the ruling Syriza party's anti-austerity program could be pushed back, but the comments suggested a greater willingness to compromise on pre-election pledges.
Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras stormed to power in January on promises to cancel austerity, including restoring the minimum wage level and collective bargaining rights.
The government earlier this week said it hoped for a deal by Sunday, though international lenders have been less optimistic, citing Greece's resistance to labor and pension reforms that are conditions for more aid.
Voutsis said Athens and its partners agreed on some issues, such as achieving low primary budget surpluses in the first two years. But they still disagreed on a sales tax, with Greece pushing so any VAT hikes will not burden lower incomes.
"A powerful majority in the political negotiations has showed respect for the fact that there can't be further austerity strategies for the Greek issue, the Greek problem and the Greek people," he said.
The debt stand-off between Greece and its European Union partners overshadowed a meeting of policymakers from the Group of Seven rich nations in Dresden, Germany, on Friday.
The United States warned of a possible accident for the world economy if Greece and its creditors miss their June deadlines to avert a debt default.
In an interview with Realnews newspaper published on Saturday, Economy Minister George Stathakis said Athens had no alternative plan.
"The idea of a Plan B doesn't exist. Our country needs to stay in the eurozone but on a better organized aid program," he said.
Stathakis was confident a deal will be reached. "Otherwise, mainly Greece but the European Union as well will step into unchartered waters and no-one wants that."
(Reporting by Angeliki Koutantou; Editing by Deepa Babington and David Holmes)
 

apino

Forumer storico
Sono astemio :lol:.
Solo bibite gassate :-o :D.

La mia ipotesi resta sempre in piedi ... accordo rapido in due fasi, per liberare liquidità e rimborsare la BCE a luglio/agosto.

In concomitanza a questo, uno script che indichi in una seconda fase (in autunno?) una riforma previdenziale e del mercato del lavoro ... partecipata da un pool di specialisti di livello internazionale che dovranno indicare le possibili soluzioni da adottare.

In base ai lavori di queste ultimi, un'apertura alla ristrutturazione del debito pubblico.

Anche io sono astemio, ma qui si sono dissetati con il sangue finanziario dei cassettisti... :rolleyes:
 

GiveMeLeverage

& I will remove the world
John Nash's Game Theory and Greece


May 29, 2015 2:00 AM EDT By Mohamed A. El-Erian

Economics and finance suffered two tragedies in the past week: the death of the Nobel laureate John Nash and his wife in a horrible car accident, and more delays from Greece and its creditors in reaching an agreement on a path out of the costly and protracted crisis.
A mutually beneficial outcome would alleviate the long suffering of Greek citizens who have been devastated by unemployment, shrinking incomes and spreading poverty. It would also bolster the credibility, integrity and robustness of the euro zone as a viable economic, financial and political entity. And it would remove one of the uncertainties preventing the global economy from achieving a pace of growth consistent with its potential. At first sight there seem to be little to link the two tragedies. Yet the game theory insights that John Nash pioneered -- including the concept of a "cooperative game" -- shed important light on what is happening in Greece, and help explain why the drama is unlikely to have a happy ending anytime soon.
In a cooperative game, players coordinate to achieve better outcomes than the ones that would likely prevail in the absence of such coordination. If the game is played uncooperatively, however, the result is unfortunate for all players.
This simple idea accurately describes the protracted Greek drama, including the current rush at the Group of Seven meeting in Germany to find yet another way to kick the can down the road.
At the simplest level of analysis, Greece is seeking to regain economic growth, create jobs and restore its financial viability, while remaining part of the single currency. Its European partners, working with the International Monetary Fund, share these goals, so long as achieving them doesn't impose a disproportionately heavy burden on other euro zone states in terms of finances and political acceptability, and by setting a poor example for future crises.
The problem, in game theory terms, is that a game that needs to be played cooperatively to achieve the desired outcome continues to be played uncooperatively -- repeatedly. The reasons for this unfortunate state of affairs are understandable:
There is little trust between Greece and its creditors (in this case, the European Central Bank, the European Union, and the IMF).
The sides haven't defined a common understanding of the problem, even less a solution.
The process for ensuring that policy and financing commitments are met is patchy and often controversial, in part because of political undertones: The Greek government doesn't want to be perceived as subservient to other European nations and those countries don't want be viewed as financial hostages to the inadequacy of Greek policies.
And the functioning of the coalition of creditors (once known as the Troika) is far from smooth.
Thoughtful economists such as the Nobel laureate Michael Spence have extended this concept of a cooperative game being played uncooperatively to the broader dysfunctions influencing the global economy. This type of game points to costs that far exceed simply suboptimal outcomes; it also entails the possibility of collateral damage and unintended consequences.
There are at least four ways to transform uncooperative games into cooperative ones. Unfortunately, these approaches would be ineffective in the case of Greece.
One involves using two-sided and mutually supportive conditionality as the transformation agent: for example, by rewarding the implementation of economic reforms with the ready availability of external financing. This has been tried in Greece, but the results have fallen short, which has diminished the effectiveness of this tool. Specifically, Greece's record on making good on its policy-reform promises has been far from perfect; and its creditors have been too hesitant in providing the extent of debt relief and cash the country needs.
A second way involves a decisive external impetus. In the case of Greece and its creditors, this role has been played by fear, particularly the fear that the Greek economy would implode, which would force it out of the euro zone. This has stoked the additional fear that such an outcome would destabilize other euro zone economies, threaten the integrity of the single currency group and disrupt the global economy.
And fear is an inconsistent transformation agent because its impact is hard to sustain. As soon as it dissipates, all sides revert to uncooperative behavior. And this is what has happened in this case since at least 2010.
A third alternative involves the entry of new players that are willing and able to put aside uncooperative legacies. In today's Europe, however, the political reality is that new players tend to be even more skeptical than their predecessors. The electoral victory of Syriza in Greece is a case in point.
Finally, mutually beneficial developments could convince both sides to work together more closely. Regrettably, this hasn’t been the case of Greece and its European partners, given the limited progress on the ground.
Assessing the Greek drama through the lens of game theory explains why the crisis -- and the question of Greece's continued euro-zone membership -- are no closer to being resolved. Applying Nash's theory shows that the best we can realistically expect is yet another attempt to postpone painful decisions. But even this inadequate outcome is proving increasingly difficult to deliver, and if it materializes, the resulting delay will lead to an even more difficult situation, unless the players decide to stop their uncooperative game very soon.
 

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