Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 2

[zeta59]

Ciao Zeta, hai comprato qualcosa oggi?

Ciao Zorba il mio conto non è il deposito di Zio Paperone , mi son rimaste solo 2 cartucce da sparare. che al momento tengo lì.

Ho finito di contare i loss al centesimo da inizio anno ad oggi,
l'intoppo di ieri sulla UBI mi costa già 780€

 

[zeta59]

Chi ha la cedola aggiornata di MPS , dovrebbe essere 1,09 + 6,30 = 7,39 o sbaglio ?

 

[Tobia]

Ciao Zorba il mio conto non è il deposito di Zio Paperone , mi son rimaste solo 2 cartucce da sparare. che al momento tengo lì.

Ho finito di contare i loss al centesimo da inizio anno ad oggi,
l'intoppo di ieri sulla UBI mi costa già 780€

vabè zeta ma conti anche i loss potenziali? non mi dire che hai già sbolognato la UBI
io intanto lurko alla stragrande ma il braccino è corto
ps. adesso chiamo iw se vi serve qualche prezzo....

 

[reef]

Ho finito di contare i loss al centesimo da inizio anno ad oggi,

Scusa? Loss da inizio anno? Intendi 2012?

 

[amorgos34]

Chi ha la cedola aggiornata di MPS , dovrebbe essere 1,09 + 6,30 = 7,39 o sbaglio ?

diviso 4

 

[Doc82]

vabè zeta ma conti anche i loss potenziali? non mi dire che hai già sbolognato la UBI
io intanto lurko alla stragrande ma il braccino è corto
ps. adesso chiamo iw se vi serve qualche prezzo....

ne approfitto:

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[zeta59]

vabè zeta ma conti anche i loss potenziali? non mi dire che hai già sbolognato la UBI
io intanto lurko alla stragrande ma il braccino è corto
ps. adesso chiamo iw se vi serve qualche prezzo....

No, i potenziali non li conteggio , solo gli effettivi , UBI è, e resta li

Scusa? Loss da inizio anno? Intendi 2012?

Purtroppo sì Reef , essendo partito con l'handicapp come ho postato ieri , posso solo uscire con le ossicine meno rotte di quanto non lo fossero a fine 2011, rosico non poco a vedere i gain che avrei potuto fare se avessi liquidato tutto o molto prima di Agosto 2011 , ed invece diventano come lo definisco io "recupero crediti"

 

[ferdo]

vabè zeta ma conti anche i loss potenziali? non mi dire che hai già sbolognato la UBI
io intanto lurko alla stragrande ma il braccino è corto
ps. adesso chiamo iw se vi serve qualche prezzo....

XS0203156798 italease Lt2 grazie

 

[Rottweiler]

[Reuters] Raiffeisen says keeping rights issue as option
[RBIV.VI RZB.UL] VIENNA, Feb 8 (Reuters) - Raiffeisen Bank International <RBIV.VI> (RBI) is keeping open plans for a possible rights issue now that bank sector shares have come off last year's lows, the Austrian lender that is emerging Europe's third-biggest lender said. "We don't comment on rumours but we said at the half year (of 2011) that a capital increase could be a possible option depending on how markets develop," a spokesman said on Wednesday. Raiffeisen officials had last year played down prospects for a rights issue when bank shares were so depressed. Shares in the Austrian lender have more than doubled since touching a low of 14.155 euros on Nov. 23 and were trading at 29.30 euros by 1408 GMT, up 1.1 percent. The European Banking Authority has calculated that the Raiffeisen group needs to fill a capital shortfall of around 2.1 billion euros to have Core Tier 1 capital worth 9 percent of risk-weighted assets by mid-2012. Raiffeisen Zentralbank group [RZB.UL], RBI's unlisted parent, had achieved around 1.4 billion euros ($1.9 billion) of its campaign and steps worth another 1.6 billion were under way, RBI said last month. [ID:nL5E8CP3A7] The group has said it aims to generate 3 billion euros in all without resorting to any more state aid.

A ulteriore commento l'articolo sotto riportato da Bloomberg/Business Week. Chissà cosa hanno in mente questi in fatto di tender? Può valere la pena di punzecchiare il loro IR alla Bawag-maniera?

Raiffeisen Said to Revisit $1.3 Billion Sale as Shares Rise
February 08, 2012, 10:14 AM EST

Feb. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Raiffeisen Bank International AG, eastern Europe’s third-biggest lender, is revisiting plans for a rights offering after abandoning preparations for a sale last year, four people with knowledge of the talks said.

Raiffeisen has discussed a possible offering with banks, and has yet to decide whether to proceed, said the people, who declined to be identified because the considerations are private. The lender may seek as much as 1 billion euros ($1.3 billion), two of the people said. Raiffeisen won’t start the sale before it publishes full-year results next month, another person said.

The bank needs to raise money to bolster capital and rebuild reserves eroded by losses in Hungary. The Vienna-based lender put plans for a sale on hold last year after Hungary’s decision to force foreign lenders to swallow currency losses on mortgages denominated in Swiss francs pushed Raiffeisen’s local unit into a loss and sent the lender’s stock down by more than 50 percent.

The shares have more than doubled to more than 30 euros since hitting a 12-month low in November, making it the best- performing stock in the 43-member Bloomberg European Banks and Financial Services Index in the period. UniCredit SpA, Italy’s largest lender and Raiffeisen’s biggest competitor in eastern Europe, raised 7.5 billion euros in a rights offering in January.

A Raiffeisen spokeswoman, Ingrid Krenn-Ditz, said a share sale may be an option, depending on market developments. She declined to elaborate on the size or timing of an offering.

EBA Gap

Raiffeisen and its parent, Raiffeisen Zentralbank Oesterreich AG, are filling a capital gap of 2.1 billion euros determined by the European Banking Authority. They have completed measures equivalent to raising 1.4 billion euros of capital, which included making some forms of capital compliant with EBA’s rules and reducing assets, the banks said Jan. 25.

Raiffeisen said Aug. 25 it may sell shares within 12 months, and it met investors in presentations around the world over two weeks in September. The announcement came days before Hungary unveiled the plan Sept. 9 that forced banks to swallow the mortgage losses, causing a 2011 loss of 320 million euros for Raiffeisen’s unit in the country. Raiffeisen shares plunged by more than half after closing at 29.80 euros on Sept. 1 in Vienna to hit a 12-month low of 14.155 euros on Nov. 23.

No Sale

Raiffeisen Chairman Walter Rothensteiner said Sept. 22 that there would be no share sale at prices similar to the close a day earlier at 22.10 euros. Since the November low, the stock more than doubled.

The shares pared gains in Vienna trading after Bloomberg reported about the plans. The stock was up 2.7 percent at 29.76 euros by 2:36 p.m. after rising as high as 30.50 euros earlier in the day.

Raiffeisen first sold shares to the public in 2005 at 32.50 euros apiece, and at 104 euros in a secondary offering in 2007. Its core Tier 1 ratio, a measure of financial strength, declined by 60 basis points to 7.9 percent in the third quarter because its loan book grew. The capital includes 1.75 billion euros in state funds it received in 2009 and must repay. Standard & Poor’s said last year it may cut Raiffeisen’s debt rating if the lender doesn’t sell stock in the “short to medium term.”

 

[Tobia]

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p.s. scusa ferdo ho visto il tuo msg tardi