Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 3

utile atteso per il Q3: 0.027 (è stato 0.81 vs 0.49 atteso nel Q2, 0.28 contro 0.24 atteso nel Q1. Negli ultimi 4Q la sorpresa è stata sempre positiva)

Grazie! :up:

Il 3Q in sostanziale pareggio sarebbe un risultato accettabile: non si potrebbe escludere che l'intero anno possa chiudersi vicino a break-even.

Mi sorprende che il consensus del 4Q-14 fosse ancora peggiore del risultato...:eek:

P.S. è possibile capire, da BBG, quanti analisti vadano a comporre il quadro complessivo?
 
Grazie! :up:

Il 3Q in sostanziale pareggio sarebbe un risultato accettabile: non si potrebbe escludere che l'intero anno possa chiudersi vicino a break-even.

Mi sorprende che il consensus del 4Q-14 fosse ancora peggiore del risultato...:eek:

P.S. è possibile capire, da BBG, quanti analisti vadano a comporre il quadro complessivo?

l'EPS riportato è RETTIFICATO, le stime sono solo 3, con una buona variabilità ( da 0.40 a -0.30, quest'ultima aggiornata a fine agosto, le altre più recenti)

Per il 2015 le stime sono per un leggero utile (23 analisti in questo caso)
 
Ultima modifica:
14/10
BHP Billiton - EUR/GBP Hybrid New Issue ***

* IPTs [all yields ANNUAL] EUR NC5.5yr 5.000% AREA
EUR NC9yr 5.875% AREA
GBP NC7yr 6.625% AREA
* Size Benchmark per tranche
* Timing Books open, expect today's business

*************************************************************

ISSUER: BHP Billiton Finance Limited
GUARANTOR: BHP Billiton Limited
CROSS-GUARANTOR: BHP Billiton Plc
SENIOR RATING: A1/A+ (Stable / Negative)
EXPECTED ISSUE RATINGS: A3/A-
SECURITY DESCRIPTION: Unsecured Subordinated Non-call Fixed Rate Reset Notes, senior only to ordinary shares of the Issuer
FORMAT: Bearer form instruments
SELLING RESTRICTIONS: Reg-S only (TEFRA D applies, no offers into the US); no offers into Canada)
GUARANTEE AND CROSS GUAR.: The payment of principal, interest and all other payment payable by the Issuer with regards to the Notes have been unconditionally and irrevocable guaranteed by the Guarantor and the Cross-Guarantor
SUBORDINATION OF GUAR. Claim under the Guarantee and Cross Guarantee are subordinated and will rank junior to the Guarantor and Cross-Guarantor’s senior debt and senior only to the ordinary shares of the Guarantor and Cross-Guarantor

SIZE: € Benchmark | € Benchmark | £ Benchmark
MATURITY: 60.5NC5.5 | 64NC9 | 62NC7
IPTs: 5.000% area | 5.875% area | 6.625% area
MATURITY DATE: 22/04/2076 | 22/10/2079 | 22/10/2077 FIRST CALL DATE: 22/04/2021 | 22/10/2024 | 22/10/2022
STEP-UP: 25bp in Year 10.5 | 25bp in Year 14 | 25bp in Year 12
75bp in Year 25.5 | 75bp in Year 29 | 75bp in Year 27

E' un nuovo perpetuo? Mi puoi dare l'isin e le caratteristiche? Non riesco a tradurre.Grazie.
 
Banca Marche’s Rescue by Interbank Fund May Not Protect Bondholders
On 8 October, the Italian Interbank Deposit Protection Fund (Interbank Fund, unrated) agreed to inject an
undisclosed amount of capital into Banca delle Marche S.p.A. (Banca Marche, unrated). The capital increase,
which still requires regulatory approvals, will likely put an end to Banca Marche’s regulatory administration,
and allow the bank to resume its activities. However, it is unclear if bondholders will incur losses, and there
is a risk that some bondholders, particularly junior ones, could be required to share some of the bank’s
losses under state aid or bail-in frameworks.
Banca Marche has been under the administration of the Bank of Italy since August 2013 following the
supervisor’s questions about the bank’s capital. We understand that the Interbank Fund, which is a private
entity owned by more than 300 Italian banks, intervened to help Banca Marche resume its activities and
avoid liquidation, the consequences of which would have been detrimental to the banking system. After the
capital injection, the Interbank Fund will be Banca Marche’s sole shareholder.
In February 2015, the European Commission opened an investigation into a similar rescue by the Interbank
Fund of Banca Tercas (unrated), a smaller bank under administration. In that case, the Interbank Fund
covered the negative equity, while Banca Popolare di Bari (unrated) provided a capital injection into Banca
Tercas and became its sole shareholder. The European Commission is currently determining if this rescue
was a prohibited form of state aid. When interbank funds intervene beyond their pay-out function to grant
support to ailing banks, it is likely that the measures give the beneficiary bank an undue advantage over its
competitors. If the investigation concludes that the rescue of Banca Tercas was not in line with European
Union state aid rules, junior bondholders could incur losses. At this stage, we do not know if the transaction
envisaged for Banca Marche is similar to Banca Tercas’ and whether the European Union will review it.
Starting 1 January 2016, banks in the European Union will be subject to the Banking Recovery and
Resolution Directive (BRRD). According the BRRD, resolution of failed banks could entail losses for
shareholders, bondholders and junior depositors (bail-in). Banca Marche is among 14 Italian banking groups
currently under administration by the Bank of Italy. Seven of these 14 are part of the mutual banking
network, which we believe will rescue the mutual banks as it has done in the past. As such, bondholders of
mutual banks under administration are at less risk of losses than bondholders of the other seven banks.
For the remaining seven, including Banca Marche, junior bondholders would be at risk if these banks are
rescued by the Interbank Fund and European authorities consider such rescues to be inconsistent with state
aid rules. If a rescue takes place in 2016, or if the capital of these banks falls below the regulatory minimum
in 2016, all bondholders and junior depositors could be at risk following application of the bail-in tool under
BRRD rules
 
Banco Comercial Portugues Plan to Merge Its Angolan Subsidiary with BPA Is
Credit Positive
Last Thursday, Portugal’s Banco Comercial Portugues, S.A. (BCP, B1/B1 stable, caa12
) announced that it had
reached an agreement to merge its subsidiary Banco Millenium Angola, S.A. (BMA, unrated) with Banco
Privado Atlantico, S.A. (BPA, unrated) to form Angola’s second-largest private-sector bank by loans. The
transaction is credit positive because it strengthens BCP’s capitalisation.
BCP is Portugal’s second-largest financial institution and the country’s largest privately owned bank. It has
operations in Poland, Mozambique and Angola, where it has a 50.1% stake in BMA. At the end of June 2015,
BCP’s operations in Angola accounted for 3% of the bank’s total assets. A successful execution of this
merger would give BCP a stake of around 20% in the combined entity.
BCP estimates that the transaction will increase its phased-in common equity Tier 1 (CET1) ratio by 37 basis
points, mainly aided by the removal of the heavy risk-weighted assets (RWAs) associated with the Angolan
subsidiary. Despite being loss-making for the past four years, BCP was able to strengthen its solvency levels,
primarily through public recapitalisation and a significant reduction in RWAs. At the end of June 2015, the
bank reported a phased-in CET1 ratio of 13.1% and a fully loaded CET1 ratio of 10.7% (see Exhibit 1).
Therefore, the pro forma phased-in CET1 ratio as of this date including the transaction would be 13.5%
We do not expect the transaction to significantly affect the contribution of Angolan profits to BCP’s
profitability, given that BPA’s net income at the end of June 2015 was broadly in line with that of BMA (€38
million, or 12% of BCP’s overall profits). Moreover, the overall earnings prospects of BCP are improving
because of a gradual recovery in earnings from the bank’s domestic operations, particularly as a result of
lower provisioning needs (see Exhibit 2).
BCP’s agreement, which requires the approval of BMA’s and BPA’s shareholders and regulators, aims to
ensure effective control over its stake in BPA and the management of risks. As such, the combined
institution will have a 15-member board, five of which BCP will name, and a seven-member executive
committee, two of which BCP will name. The BCP-appointed board members will have responsibility for the
risk office and for credit. The agreement also calls for BCP to name a vice chairman of BPA’s executive
committee and a vice chairman who will preside over the risk or audit committee.
 
Buongiorno.Vorrei cortesemente delle informazioni su questa perpetua in fiorini olandesi l'AEGON 5,185% NL0000121416. Paga la cedola il 14/10.
Sembra non sia un tasso fisso perpetuo, ma che 2018 possa essere ricalcolato sul valore dei TDS olandesi e qualcosa d'altro.
Attualmente quota tra 82/82,5.
Sarei grato a chi mi possa spiegare il suo funzionamento.
Ciao
 
Buongiorno.Vorrei cortesemente delle informazioni su questa perpetua in fiorini olandesi l'AEGON 5,185% NL0000121416. Paga la cedola il 14/10.
Sembra non sia un tasso fisso perpetuo, ma che 2018 possa essere ricalcolato sul valore dei TDS olandesi e qualcosa d'altro.
Attualmente quota tra 82/82,5.
Sarei grato a chi mi possa spiegare il suo funzionamento.
Ciao

Il 14/10/18, se non verrà callata, pagherà tds decennale olandese + 0,85% (con un tasso fissato per i 10 anni successivi)
 
Il 14/10/18, se non verrà callata, pagherà tds decennale olandese + 0,85% (con un tasso fissato per i 10 anni successivi)

Il tasso però è già fissato al 5,18 fino al 2018
Il 14/10/2018 verrà fissato per gli anni successivi con lo stesso metodo da te citato, salvo call anticipata (che non credo).

Io personalmente comprerei quella con cedola 4,26 che rifissa la cedola nel 2021, che in ottica di tassi bassissimi a lungo, protegge meglio la quotazione, infatti la terza che ha fissato da poco con cedola bassa è sprofondata come quotazione. ;)
 
Il tasso però è già fissato al 5,18 fino al 2018
Il 14/10/2018 verrà fissato per gli anni successivi con lo stesso metodo da te citato, salvo call anticipata (che non credo).

Io personalmente comprerei quella con cedola 4,26 che rifissa la cedola nel 2021, che in ottica di tassi bassissimi a lungo, protegge meglio la quotazione, infatti la terza che ha fissato da poco con cedola bassa è sprofondata come quotazione. ;)

Sì... non mi sono spiegato bene... grazie per la precisazione...
Io, per non sbagliare, li ho entrambi... :D
 

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