Bund, bond e la bband : Obama is calling YOU vm69

Ciao a tutti, è la prima volta che scrivo nel vostro thread, purtroppo anche io mi trovo a dover combattere con Iw.
Sono da poco scadute le opz sugli obb. europei e volevo ripartire con una strategia collar sullo schatz, acquisto il future e poi una put che mi libera liquidità a questo punto dovevo vendere una call a 107,9 ma mi la qt mi chiedeva circa 8000 euro di margine... che non ho sul conto.
Contatto un operatore tramite chat, il quale mi dice che se la piattaforma ti chiede 8000 euro è cosi e non si può fare altrimenti. io mi lamento e gli dico che trovo la cosa assurda, lui mi ribatte dicendomi che è un sistema di protezione perchè se vendessi allo scoperto l'opzione potrei rischiare molto...
Bene tutto ciò è vero e gli scrivo che vendere una call 107,9 con margine 8000 e come dire che il future può arrivare a 116... lui mi risponde che è possibile trattandosi di un future, a questo punto ho salutato perchè non valeva più la pena di continuare.

Sbaglierò io ma la situazione è tragicomica.

sullo shatz non ho esperienza , le tradate fatte sul Bund son state sempre ok , però sul T-Bond ultimamente ho avuto grossi problemi ad avere le quote esatte e addirittura non si potevano immettere ordini per motivi tecnici misteriosi, nessuno nonostante 194348294 contatti si è mai degnato di dirmi qualcosa
per questo dicevo prima che inizio a nutrire seri dubbi sulla loro volontà di migliorare la parte trading
 
sulle banche inglesi stanno facendo una spremuta di short impressionante, lloyds maledetta oggi mi spara un altro +40%:wall::corna:
anche il cable sta salendo, oggi combinazione è uscita la news che soros si era messo anche lui a shortarla , vogliano inq anche isso:V
 
domani un'altra asta billionaria di 5y

Treasuries Fall as Obama’s Plans Fuel Demand for Corporate Debt

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601009&sid=agwHLFhKNv0U&refer=bond#


By Anchalee Worrachate and Wes Goodman
Jan. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Treasuries fell on speculation President Barack Obama’s plans to revive the economy will spark demand for higher-yielding company debt.
Five-year notes declined before the U.S. sells $30 billion of the securities tomorrow. Treasuries lost investors 1.6 percent this month, eroding a 14 percent gain from 2008 that was the most in 13 years, while corporate debt returned 1.8 percent, Merrill Lynch & Co. indexes show. Company bonds offer “terrific value,” said Fritz Meyer, senior market strategist in Houston at Invesco Aim Advisors Inc.
“Risk appetite appears to be improving, and corporate bonds are looking attractive at these levels,” said David Schnautz, an interest-rate strategist in Frankfurt at Commerzbank AG, Germany’s second-biggest lender. “The economic environment remains fragile. But with all the spending plans and stimulus packages the government is working on, there’s some speculation that situation may stabilize soon.”
Ten-year yields rose three basis points, or 0.03 percentage point, to 2.56 percent at 8:33 a.m. in New York, according to BGCantor Market Data. The 3.75 percent security due in November 2018 fell 9/32, or $2.81 per $1,000 face amount, to 110 9/32.
The yield climbed from a record low of 2.04 percent set Dec. 18 and compares with an average of 4.56 percent this decade. The yield will rise to 3.02 percent by the end of the year, according to the median of 61 analysts’ forecasts compiled by Bloomberg.
Yields on two-year notes advanced eight basis points to 0.88 percent.
The difference between two- and 10-year rates narrowed today to 1.67 percentage points, the least in more than a week, indicating greater demand for the higher yields offered by longer maturities.
Narrower Spreads
U.S. corporate and high-yield bonds yielded 7.40 percentage points more than Treasuries today, according to a Merrill Lynch index, compared with 8.96 percentage points on Dec. 18. Washington Post Co., the newspaper publisher, raised $400 million yesterday in its first bond sale since 1999.
Companies in the U.S. sold $119.7 billion bonds in 2009, the busiest start to a year since Bloomberg began compiling the data in 1999. Issuers included Duke University and Lubrizol Corp., the world’s biggest maker of lubricant additives.
Obama lobbied lawmakers yesterday to win approval for $825 billion of spending programs and tax cuts. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. may run a proposed “bad bank” to buy toxic assets from lenders, two people familiar with the matter said.
“It’s very likely that the economy will turn higher in the second half of the year,” Invesco’s Meyer said yesterday on Bloomberg Television. His company had $448 billion in assets as of Sept. 30.
Recession Concerns
The U.S. economy will contract in the first half of 2009 and expand in the second, a Bloomberg survey of banks and securities companies shows.
The Federal Reserve will refrain from raising interest rates from record lows when it finishes a meeting today, futures contracts on the Chicago Board of Trade indicate.
Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke trimmed the target rate for overnight loans between banks to a range of zero to 0.25 percent at the meeting on Dec. 16 to help unfreeze credit markets.
The central bank may not be ready to start buying long-term Treasuries, Jan Hatzius, chief U.S. economist at Goldman, Sachs & Co. wrote in a note to clients yesterday. The policy committee said last month it was “evaluating the potential benefits” of the purchases.
Some policy makers may “still worry about inflationary risks,” Hatzius wrote. Goldman is one of the 17 primary dealers that underwrite U.S. debt.
Inflation expectations increased this month as Timothy Geithner was sworn in as Treasury secretary and promised to help Obama push through his economic plans.
Real Yields
The difference between rates on 10-year notes and Treasury Inflation Protected Securities, which reflects the outlook among traders for consumer prices, was at 81 basis points, the most in 11 weeks. The gap was 2.31 percentage points six months ago.
The real yield, what investors get from 10-year notes after inflation, was 2.51 percent. Consumer prices increased 0.1 percent in 2008, after rising 4.1 percent the previous year.
The risk for bears in the Treasury market is that the demand for safety that sent government securities surging last year will pick up again as gross domestic product shrinks.
“Yields are going to fall because of the bad economy,” said Kei Katayama, who oversees $1.6 billion of non-yen debt as leader of the foreign fixed-income group in Tokyo at Daiwa SB Investments Ltd., part of Japan’s second-biggest investment bank. “That will continue for a while.”
Ten-year yields will be 2 percent to 2.5 percent through March 31, he said.
Auction Results
Treasuries climbed yesterday as demand rose at a record $40 billion two-year note auction. The auction attracted bids 2.69 times the securities offered, up from 2.13 times at a sale last month.
Government efforts to restore trading in credit markets that froze last year are beginning to show results, DB Advisors, the institutional asset management arm of Deutsche Bank AG, said in a report today.
Markets for interbank lending, mortgages and commercial paper show “notable improvements,” economists led by Joshua Feinman in New York wrote. Deutsche Bank, the parent company, is another primary dealer at U.S. debt auctions.
The difference between what banks and the Treasury pay to borrow money for three months, the so-called TED spread, shrank to as little as 98 basis points on Jan. 15 from 4.64 percentage points on Oct. 10. The narrowing began to reverse this month, pushing the spread out to 1.06 percentage points today.
Libor Steady
The London interbank offered rate, or Libor, for three- month dollar loans was little changed at 1.18 percent yesterday, near a three-week high. It tumbled in the final months of 2008 from 4.82 percent in October.
About $245 billion of 90-day commercial paper that companies sold to the Fed starting in October will mature this week and next, central bank data show. As much as $50 billion to $70 billion of the debt may be rolled over and bought by investors, according to Barclays Capital in New York.
U.S. mortgage rates have yet to recover to earlier levels. Thirty-year fixed home-loan rates were about 5.12 percent in the U.S. last week, according to mortgage-finance company Freddie Mac in McLean, Virginia, or 2.5 percentage points more than 10- year Treasury yields. The spread has averaged about 1.8 percentage points over the past five years.
 
Ma l'oro lavorato non è tutto oro, sarebbe troppo molle, è in lega.
azz vero, l'oro usato è tipicamente il 750... allora il margine è molto più basso... uffa speravo di aver trovato il business :D

qui una tabella del 2007, quando l'oro puro nuovo costava sui 16 euro

http://www.agcm.it/agcm_ita/DSAP/DS...12573b7004f59cb?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=-3
– l’oro è acquistato direttamente dai privati con tariffa che varia in funzione del tipo di oro che viene offerto come evidenziato dalla punzonatura dello stesso;
– i prezzi praticati in media sono i seguenti:
1. Oro puro (999) - € 15/gr
2. Oro a 900 - € 13,50/gr
3. Oro a 750 - € 10/gr
4. Oro a 585 - € 8,50/gr
5. Oro a 375 - € 7,00/gr;


anche qui si parla di un margine di 2-3 euro/grammo
http://www.blog.8853.it/metalli-preziosi/varie/loro-usato-vale-la-meta
 
sulle banche inglesi stanno facendo una spremuta di short impressionante, lloyds maledetta oggi mi spara un altro +40%:wall::corna:
anche il cable sta salendo, oggi combinazione è uscita la news che soros si era messo anche lui a shortarla , vogliano inq anche isso:V
se Soros dice di shortare, allora bisogna andare lunghi, oppure stare lontani come la peste :rolleyes:
se lui è un filantropo, io sono Babbo Natale :specchio:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...horting-sterling-during-its-recent-slide.html
 
no ragazzi qui siamo alla pazzia pura .. si chiedono i soldi dei contribuenti per le perdite e poi si distribuisce dividendo ... tangente per Buffett che ha cercato di salvare GS e CITI .... è proprio un bel mondo ...

Exploit di Wells Fargo (+22,67%) dopo annuncio distribuzione dividendo

Finanzaonline.com - 28.1.09/16:36

Raffica di acquisti su Wells Fargo a Wall Street nonostante abbiamo presentato dei conti trimestrali in rosso. Le azioni del gruppo di San Francisco prendono il 22,67% a 19,86 dollari per azione (massimo intrday a 19,97 dollari). A sostenere la corsa rialzista del titolo sono le indicazioni positive arrivate dalla società che ha fatto sapere che non intende fare nuovamente ricorso al piano d'aiuto statale (Tarp). Non solo. Il mercato ha accolto con favore l'annuncio relativo alla distribuzione di un dividendo trimestrale pari a 34 centesimi di dollaro.
 

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