Obbligazioni societarie GM, Ford, Chrysler: il 3D dell'automotive USA (5 lettori)

paologorgo

Chapter 11
un articolino in italiano ogni tanto :) http://www.chicago-blog.it/index.php/2009/08/government-motors-e-i-tesoretti-della-bad-company/


Government Motors e i tesoretti della Bad Company

Mario Seminerio
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Mentre si discute della apparentemente prossima stabilizzazione della congiuntura americana, almeno per il terzo trimestre, grazie anche al travolgente successo del programma di rottamazione auto “cash for clunkers” (che in realtà “prende a prestito” domanda dal futuro, e crea condizioni di dipendenza strutturale del settore dai sussidi pubblici, come ben sappiamo noi europei), giunge la notizia che General MotorsChapter 11, sarà infatti consentito di utilizzare i crediti d’imposta derivanti dal “tax-loss carry forward”, cioè dal riporto a nuovo delle perdite a compensazione degli utili futuri, fino a 20 esercizi successivi. L’entità di questo dono è pari a 16 miliardi di dollari. riceverà un prezioso dono dal suo nuovo azionista di controllo, il governo degli Stati Uniti. Alla nuova GM, quella che emergerà dalla procedura di

Magari mi sono perso qualcosa, ma non sarei così sicuro che sia già cosa fatta...
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
Ford (F) July U.S. sales: +2.3% to 158,838 vs. consensus of -5%, making it the first U.S. manufacturer to report a monthly sales increase this year. Hat tip: Cash for Clunkers. (PR) Shares +6.1%.
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
la notizia è del WSJ http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203609204574314180298525294.html ... di più nin so, Paolo ne sai più tu di me, che la FIAT si sia impelagata ?

In effetti è tutto all'indicativo... e sembra descritto come un diritto acquisito. Da un punto di vista procedurale mi lascia un po' perplesso, anche e soprattutto per i tempi, ma non ho guardato i filing recentemente. Anche perchè sono troppi i casi da seguire... :D

Ricordo una richiesta di GM che limitava le vendite agli azionisti che possedevano più del 5%, ai fini di preservare i NOLs. Questa però è una procedura standard, che si vede in tanti casi di bk, ma che non necessariamente vuol dire che l'operazione vada a buon fine. Tra l'altro finchè le azioni "vecchie" vengono tradate, un istituzionale con più del 5% potrebbe vendere, e quindi come fai a dare per assodato una cosa che dipende anche da un comportamento futuro di terzi?

Fuor di metafora, l'unico motivo per cui seguo Lehman, Chrysler prima ed adesso GM è che questo uso "spregiudicato" della vendita in 363 (a causa dell'urgenza in Lehman, e della volontà del DIP financer - il Governo - in Chrysler e GM) crea un precedente che purtroppo limiterà in futuro la possibilità di azionisti e creditori di "gestire" procedure normali che consentono a volte di uscire con profitto a chi entra post filing.

Se ci aggiungono un cambiamento della regola dei NOLs, variano completamente le valutazioni delle società post chapter 11, e forniscono un ulteriore incentivo all'uso spregiudicato di questa "scappatoia" del ch 11.

Basta che mi avvertono, io mi adeguo... :D - ma è una porcata, non solo perchè limiterebbe la mia attività... Non mi stupirei invece se passata questa "ondata" non si cercasse di "limitare" l'uso della vendita sotto 363, che è un modo per sfuggire al rispetto delle priorità dei creditori e dei loro diritti. My two cents... ;)
 

yellow

Forumer attivo
;)Buone nuove per Mr.Marchionne :

03.08.09 17:25 - Chrysler: in vista straordinari per alcuni stabilimenti

DETROIT (MF-DJ)--Chrysler Group LLC, societa' automobilistica statunitense partecipata da Fiat con una quota del 20% del capitale,
ha iniziato a programmare delle aperture straordinarie per alcuni suoi stabilimenti per far fronte alle richieste del mercato.


Lo afferma la stessa casa di Auburn Hills in una nota annunciando inoltre una crescita a doppia cifra delle vendite di luglio rispetto al mese di giugno.


Il produttore automobilistico ha inoltre spiegato, tramite la portavoce Kathy Graham, che le vendite dei modelli di piccole dimensioni, Patriot, Compass e Caliber, registreranno una crescita a tripla cifra grazie anche al programma governativo di rottamazione "Cash for Clunkers".


Comparate al mese di luglio del 2008, le vendite dello scorso mese continueranno pero' ad essere negative con una calo comunque compreso entro il 10%.


Attualmente tutti gli stabilimenti del gruppo sono operativi tranne l'impianto di assemblaggio di Detroit in Conner Avenue, dove si realizzano le Dodge Viper.
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
OT - certo che se smettiamo di scrivere, qui, shark come fa a fare diligence?!?

:lol:
 

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paologorgo

Chapter 11
Ho una bella notizia per Shark & Co. - anzi due... :up:

Io continuavo a cercare tra i docket del ch 11 GM, dimenticandomi che basta una bella leggina ad personam, nascosta ben bene... :D - tra l'altro, l'avessi notata ai tempi, era un'altra chiara indicazione della volontà del Governo di portare il gioiellino in Chapter 11... Un quintale di vaselina per la vendita sotto 363... :rolleyes:

La porcata, fortunatamente, si limita a creare una eccezione in caso ci sia una partecipazione Statale nella NewCo, e quindi lascia la regola esistente - evitandomi quindi fortunatamente di dovermi trovare un lavoro vero... ;) :lol:

Section 382 treatment of stock acquired
by Treasury.
For purposes of section
382, with respect to any stock (other
than preferred stock described in section
1504(a)(4)) issued to Treasury pursuant to
the Programs (either directly or upon the
exercise of a warrant), the ownership rep-
resented by such stock on any date on
which it is held by Treasury shall not be
considered to have caused Treasury’s ownership
in the issuing corporation to have increased
over its lowest percentage owned
on any earlier date.
Except as described
below, such stock is considered outstanding
for purposes of determining the percentage
of stock owned by other 5-percent
shareholders on a testing date.
E. Section 382 treatment of redemptions
of stock from Treasury. For purposes
of measuring shifts in ownership by any
5-percent shareholder on any testing date
occurring on or after the date on which an
issuing corporation redeems stock held by
Treasury that had been issued to Treasury
pursuant to the Programs (either directly or
upon the exercise of a warrant), the stock
so redeemed shall be treated as if it had
never been outstanding.


In soldoni: lo Stato è padrone, ma è come non lo fosse, quindi si salva formalmente la regola, complessa, sulla trasferibilità dei NOLs. Che deve essere rispettata.

Un carotone concesso per rendere più invitante l'azienda, e quindi la partecipazione di cui lo Stato si vuole liberare al più presto. Traducendo: so di avere investito 100, e siccome il povero taxpayer leggerà sul giornale quanto incasserò dalla vendita della partecipazione, ci aggiungo sotto banco una cosa di valore (uno sconto sulle tasse future...) ma che sfugge al cronista distratto, e aumento il valore di quanto "incasserò". Degno del gioco delle tre carte... :D - lo dico prima che intervenga stockuccio... ;)

Altra buona notizia: non sono solo 16 bilioncini:

The Debtors estimate that, as of the date hereof, the Debtors have
incurred, for U.S. federal income tax purposes, (i) consolidated NOLs in excess of $16 billion
and (ii) foreign tax credit and other excess credit carryforwards in excess of $5 billion. In
addition, the Debtors have substantial tax basis in their assets.

http://www.motorsliquidationdocket.com/stock_1.pdf

Potenzialmente, può essere ben di più...

La legge ad GM:

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-irbs/irb09-18.pdf

Chissà se stavolta Shark parlerà bene di me... :D :cool:
 

stockuccio

Guest
il fatto è che la storia GM passa in cavalleria con risparmiatori danneggiati e diventa anche questa un precedente importante
calcoli, controcalcoli, sotterfugi, aiutini, spintine ... tanto l'anno prossimo arriva la Tata Nano a 4000 dollari e magari qualche cineseria varia :D
 

woolloomooloo

Forumer storico
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ford Motor Co. Outlook Revised To Developing From Negative On Progress In Reducing Cash Use[/FONT]


  • Ford has slowed it cash use significantly and has shown early signs of stabilizing its U.S. market share.
  • However, Ford continues to use cash from its global automotive operations.
  • We are revising our outlook on Ford and related entities to developing from negative and affirming the ratings.
  • The developing outlook indicates that we could raise or lower the
    corporate credit rating during the next year.

NEW YORK (Standard & Poor's) July 27, 2009--Standard & Poor's Ratings Services today said it has revised its outlook on Ford Motor Co. and related entities to developing from negative. At the same time, we affirmed our ratings, including the 'CCC+' issuer credit ratings on Ford and Ford Motor Credit Co. LLC, as well as the 'B-' ratings on FCE Bank PLC, Ford Credit's European bank, maintaining the one-notch rating differential between FCE and its parent, Ford Credit.

"The outlook revision reflects early signs of progress by Ford in reducing cash use from its automotive operations and stabilizing, if not improving, its U.S. market share," said Standard & Poor's credit analyst Robert Schulz.

The company reported that it used $1.2 billion in cash, including cash restructuring costs and upfront subvention payments to Ford Credit, in its global automotive operations in the second quarter of 2009, much less than that used in the two previous quarters ($4.0 billion in the first quarter of 2009 and $7.4 billion in the fourth quarter of 2008).

In our view, there is now potential for us to raise Ford's ratings in the next year or so, although the possibility for a downgrade remains significant.

For example, we could consider raising the rating under the following scenario:

  • If Ford's cash use and losses from global automotive operations continue to diminish significantly, leaving sustainable cash balances of at least $15 billion;
  • If Ford improves its highly leveraged capital structure, including addressing its bank credit maturity profile; and
  • If Ford is able to cope successfully with the evolving competitive
    structure of the global auto industry.
However, we could still lower the rating on Ford if continued weakness in the global auto market for the remainder of 2009 and in 2010 and a very slow global economic recovery prevent Ford from further stemming its cash use, as this would reduce liquidity and, in our view, increase refinancing risk from the company's sizable bank debt maturities in late 2011.

Also, we still believe that the very fragile state of the interrelated auto supply base poses some risks to Ford's liquidity.

The cash use is being caused by weak auto sales in almost every market, but especially in the U.S. and Europe. Our economists forecast U.S. light-vehicle sales of about 9.9 million units this year, the lowest in nearly 40 years and down 25% from the 13.2 million units sold in 2008.

We currently expect sales to rise to 11.2 million units in 2010, but even with this improvement, sales would still be 15% below the weak levels of 2008.

The outlook for other major auto markets, including Europe, will also remain bleak, in our view, until economic stabilization becomes apparent. We expect sales in Europe to be lower in 2010 than in 2009, in part because of a shifting of sales from various government scrappage incentives. Ford and other high-volume automakers in Europe have benefited from these incentive plans in 2009, but we believe the boost to sales will be short-lived.

We believe Ford still faces the possibility of falling below the necessary levels of cash to run its automotive business--but perhaps not in 2009, given the progress it has shown in the first half of this year. We
estimate that this could occur if cash use in its automotive operations, including restructuring charges, exceeded about $12 billion total in 2009 and 2010.

In our view, the most likely catalysts for cash use of this magnitude would be if auto sales remained unchanged or worsened in 2010 from already weak 2009 levels, or if another spike in gas prices caused renewed pressure on Ford's product mix, which is still heavily weighted toward light trucks despite the company's successful initial steps to enhance its small and midsize car offerings.

We believe fundamental business risks will remain unchanged well into 2010 at least, most notably the company's exposure to weak vehicle demand globally, but also the substantial execution risk of the company's ongoing restructuring and repositioning.

Items that Ford can address over time, such as its manufacturing overcapacity, labor costs, and product line-up, may not, in our view, be sufficient to produce any meaningful free cash flow in the immediate future, although a stabilization of industry sales, even at low levels, would lead to lower cash use in 2009. Ford stated that the relatively strong second-quarter cash performance may not continue in the third quarter.

Industry sales remain weak in nearly all of Ford's key sales regions. Consequently, we expect Ford's cash use to continue through the end of this year and perhaps into 2010; however, in our view, there is an increasing likelihood that cash use will be measurably lower than it was in 2008 as the company benefits from slashed costs and reduced outflows from working capital effects.

We believe Ford may avoid revisiting its informal request for $9 billion in loans from the U.S. government if industry sales begin to recover later this year. If the government were to eventually provide funding, we stress that we would likely view such assistance as buying more time rather than as solving the automaker's fundamental business risks, especially deteriorating global demand.

We believe Ford Credit has been less constrained recently than its peers in its ability to provide financing for Ford customers; this and other factors have contributed to Ford's market share stabilization.

Ford Credit relies heavily on the short-term debt and securitization markets to fund its automotive finance business, and these markets have been affected by the broader capital market turmoil.

But we believe the auto-related asset-backed securities (ABS) markets are showing signs of improvement. In our view, Ford Credit's various existing rated retail auto loan securitizations are currently performing within our rating expectations. We believe the company has limited unencumbered assets it could use to support additional borrowing. Ford said it is exploring a possible sale of its Volvo unit, although under the terms of Ford's credit agreement, half of the proceeds from any Volvo sale must be used to repay secured debt. We do not expect Ford to sell a stake in Ford Credit.

The developing outlook indicates our view that there is at least a one-in-three possibility that we could raise or lower the corporate credit rating during the next year.

We could consider revising the outlook to positive or raise the rating if, among other things, the global light-vehicle sales outlook begins to show sustained improvement, if Ford's prospects for generating free cash flow and profits in its automotive manufacturing business improve significantly, and if the fragile supply base does not cause a significant reduction in Ford's liquidity.

For example, we could raise Ford's rating if its cash use and losses continue to diminish significantly, leaving sustainable cash balances of more than $15 billion; if Ford's capital structure--including its bank credit maturity profile--improves; and if Ford demonstrates an ability to cope successfully with the evolving competitive structure of the global auto industry.

We could revise the outlook back to negative or review the rating for a downgrade if continued weakness in the global auto market in the remainder of 2009 and in 2010 and a very slow global economic recovery prevents Ford from reducing its cash use much further, preventing profitability and changes to its bank debt maturity structure.

We could lower the ratings if, among other things, we believed cash balances would drop significantly below $10 billion at any time, although in our view, this is increasingly less likely to occur in 2009. We believe the most likely trigger for a financial restructuring or bankruptcy filing remains a reduction in cash balances approaching levels that are insufficient to operate the business, caused by low vehicle sales and production rather than by any decision to file for bankruptcy to further improve its cost structure.

articolo da incorniciare.. esemplare arrampicata sui vetri :specchio::specchio:
 

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