Obbligazioni societarie GM, Ford, Chrysler: il 3D dell'automotive USA (2 lettori)

paologorgo

Chapter 11
Paologoogle ogni tanto mi stai più simpatico e altre volte meno.
Indovina da cosa dipende ? :D:lol:

guarda che sto solo postando cose positive ultimamente... il presunto accordo con lo UAW un giorno prima di Viper... etc. etc.

E se non ci fosse malizia ma solo selezione notizie importanti nel criterio?!? :lol:
 

Mr.Noob

dove c'è default c'è casa
guarda che sto solo postando cose positive ultimamente... il presunto accordo con lo UAW un giorno prima di Viper... etc. etc.

E se non ci fosse malizia ma solo selezione notizie importanti nel criterio?!? :lol:

Mai pensato che tu sia fazioso, è che quando le cose vanno male tu riesci a trovare chicche che peggiorano ancora di più il quadretto generale :D
 

frankiemachine

Mr. Tentenna
guarda che sto solo postando cose positive ultimamente... il presunto accordo con lo UAW un giorno prima di Viper... etc. etc.

E se non ci fosse malizia ma solo selezione notizie importanti nel criterio?!? :lol:

Mai pensato che tu sia fazioso, è che quando le cose vanno male tu riesci a trovare chicche che peggiorano ancora di più il quadretto generale :D

vere tutte e due le affermazioni :D
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
vere tutte e due le affermazioni :D

solo per ridere, sono un pelino più ottimista sugli sviluppi futuri della telenovela. ;)

Perchè tutto sommato vi voglio bene, evito di comprarne un po' (porto una sfiga terribile, sarebbe chapter 11 entro 7 minuti dall'invio dell'ordine... :D), però ci sono anche segnali incoraggiante (che non vuol dire cedoloni fino al 2033 sicuri, tanto per capirci, e tutto rimborsato a 100, perchè anche i miracoli hanno i loro limiti in finanza... :lol:).

Certo che continuano a farmi ridere certe dichiarazioni di GM: abbiamo calcolato un mercato di 11 milioni di autovetture negli USA (a dire: è colpa del mercato inferiore alle attese se avremo bisogno di altri soldi...), mica mai parlare di quello che DOVRESTE VENDERE VOI, che tra l'altro state calando come market share... :sad:

Ma è come sparare sulla Croce Rossa, criticare l'execution di questa povera ditta... :help:

Solo che finisca presto... :specchio:
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
* Bondholders presented debt-to-equity plan to task force
* "Best chance" for out-of-court restructuring of GM
* Germany's Guttenberg believes GM wants to help Opel (Adds Guttenberg comments in Washington)

DETROIT, March 16 (Reuters) - Advisers to bondholders of General Motors Corp (GM.N) said on Monday they have presented a framework plan to U.S. President Barack Obama's autos task force and the ailing No. 1 U.S. automaker that provides the company's best chance for an out-of-court restructuring.
In a statement, advisers to the ad hoc committee of GM bondholders said the framework plan for a debt-to-equity exchange was "consistent with the government's restructuring requirements under the terms" of emergency government loans provided to the automaker.
"It (the framework) provides the best chance ... of completing an out-of-court restructuring by securing a high level of acceptance among a diverse group of GM bondholders -- from mutual funds to pension funds to retail bondholders," the statement added.
The plan, which was presented to the autos task force and GM several weeks ago, "is one of several options on the table that seeks to achieve a successful out-of-court restructuring," the statement said.
The statement from bondholders came the same day task force adviser Steve Rattner was quoted in a Detroit Free Press newspaper interview as saying bondholders were being "quite difficult" in talks intended to cut GM financing costs.
Rattner also was quoted as saying the United Auto Workers had been "very constructive" in talks with GM and Chrysler over restructuring payments due union retiree healthcare trusts.
Rattner also told the newspaper that bankruptcy was not the task force's goal, saying it was "never a good outcome for any company, and it's never a first choice."
A representative from Treasury could not be reached immediately for comment.
GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner was in Washington on Monday to meet with task force members, according to a person familiar with the meeting who was not authorized to speak publicly. The meeting was described as ongoing fact-finding by the panel.
Wagoner also met with the German Economy Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg on Monday night. Guttenberg told reporters after the talks that GM appeared willing to help Europeans in saving the automaker's Opel Unit.
Guttenberg, in Washington ahead of a meeting Tuesday with U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, said it was essential for GM to find a private investor. One scenario could involve GM taking a minority stake.
Guttenberg said there were still many open questions that needed to be addressed.
Germany is open to the possibility of helping Opel but has said it needed to be sure no state support would find its way to GM, which is seeking more bailout help from the U.S. government to survive. Opel has said it needs financial support to survive.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINN1654425920090317?rpc=44
 

Mr.Noob

dove c'è default c'è casa
* Bondholders presented debt-to-equity plan to task force
* "Best chance" for out-of-court restructuring of GM
* Germany's Guttenberg believes GM wants to help Opel (Adds Guttenberg comments in Washington)

DETROIT, March 16 (Reuters) - Advisers to bondholders of General Motors Corp (GM.N) said on Monday they have presented a framework plan to U.S. President Barack Obama's autos task force and the ailing No. 1 U.S. automaker that provides the company's best chance for an out-of-court restructuring.
In a statement, advisers to the ad hoc committee of GM bondholders said the framework plan for a debt-to-equity exchange was "consistent with the government's restructuring requirements under the terms" of emergency government loans provided to the automaker.
"It (the framework) provides the best chance ... of completing an out-of-court restructuring by securing a high level of acceptance among a diverse group of GM bondholders -- from mutual funds to pension funds to retail bondholders," the statement added.
The plan, which was presented to the autos task force and GM several weeks ago, "is one of several options on the table that seeks to achieve a successful out-of-court restructuring," the statement said.
The statement from bondholders came the same day task force adviser Steve Rattner was quoted in a Detroit Free Press newspaper interview as saying bondholders were being "quite difficult" in talks intended to cut GM financing costs.
Rattner also was quoted as saying the United Auto Workers had been "very constructive" in talks with GM and Chrysler over restructuring payments due union retiree healthcare trusts.
Rattner also told the newspaper that bankruptcy was not the task force's goal, saying it was "never a good outcome for any company, and it's never a first choice."
A representative from Treasury could not be reached immediately for comment.
GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner was in Washington on Monday to meet with task force members, according to a person familiar with the meeting who was not authorized to speak publicly. The meeting was described as ongoing fact-finding by the panel.
Wagoner also met with the German Economy Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg on Monday night. Guttenberg told reporters after the talks that GM appeared willing to help Europeans in saving the automaker's Opel Unit.
Guttenberg, in Washington ahead of a meeting Tuesday with U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, said it was essential for GM to find a private investor. One scenario could involve GM taking a minority stake.
Guttenberg said there were still many open questions that needed to be addressed.
Germany is open to the possibility of helping Opel but has said it needed to be sure no state support would find its way to GM, which is seeking more bailout help from the U.S. government to survive. Opel has said it needs financial support to survive.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINN1654425920090317?rpc=44

La questione del piano presentato dai bondholders a mio avviso è fuorviante.
Accolta da alcuni come chissà che gran notizia.
Invece è solo una difesa alle parole di Rettner.
Ma ognuno legge quello e come vuole...
 

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