Obbligazioni societarie GM, Ford, Chrysler: il 3D dell'automotive USA (1 Viewer)

paologorgo

Chapter 11
La questione del piano presentato dai bondholders a mio avviso è fuorviante.
Accolta da alcuni come chissà che gran notizia.
Invece è solo una difesa alle parole di Rettner.
Ma ognuno legge quello e come vuole...

Se confermato, il loro essere propositivi denota se non altro una reale intenzione ad arrivare ad un compromesso... (darei meno importanza alla loro autodichiarazione che l'offerta è consistente con i requisiti de Governo...).

Comuqnue qualcosa pare essersi sbloccato, prima i bondholder non facevano nulla in mancanza dell'accordo con UAW, Uaw aspettava i bondholders e disprezzava un conguaglio azionario, etc. etc.

e il Governo lascia trapelare una preferenza per una opzione condivisa...

Sono diventato troppo ottimista se dico che il momentum è positivo? ;) Mica penso che l'hanno risanata, ma tutti gli attori sembrano andare in una direzione di compromesso... e tanto paga pantalone... :up:
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
GM CEO says bankruptcy 'could work' but would be too risky. (WSJ)

è ovviamente un discorso un po' più complesso:

By JOHN D. STOLL

General Motors Corp. Chief Executive Rick Wagoner said Tuesday the company remains confident it can restructure outside of bankruptcy court and warned that filing for bankruptcy could lead management and the board to lose considerable control.
Mr. Wagoner, speaking to reporters in Washington, said that bankruptcy "could work but it might not work." The executive said that bankruptcy is loaded with risks, including a potential collapse in revenue, and "99%" of GM's problems can be solved without filing. He said GM is still convinced "consumers will shy away" from a bankrupt company.


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Richard Wagoner Jr


He also said bankruptcy would be expensive, and the U.S. government would need to provide so-called debtor-in-possession financing, known as DIP. "There is no DIP financing outside of the U.S. government, he said.
The executive, at GM's helm since 2000, said the auto maker holds hope that the economy will rebound in 2010, allowing GM to start repaying the $13.4 billion loan it received from the Treasury Department in December. He said GM will still need billions more in funding from the government.
"Living hand-to mouth is not fun for anybody," he said. He said the company's expectation for economic growth, currently estimated by GM at 2%, is a bit lower than the Obama administration's current projections. "Our number for 2010 is a little less than (the administration's), but we hope they're right."
In relation to the auto industry, where demand has slowed to multi-decade lows, Mr. Wagoner said that a "cash for clunkers" program, subsidized by the government, could help spur demand. He noted these scrapping programs have had success in other markets, including Germany, where incentives given to buyers willing to turn in an older vehicle in order to buy a new one helped boost sales considerably in February.
The auto maker is working with the United Auto Workers and bondholders on deals that would significantly reduce debt and the amount of cash spent on health care. Mr. Wagoner said these talks need to be resolved soon, and said that government may be able to help provide "fair value" for bondholders.
He declined to give a specific or detailed characterization of the negotiations with these parties, but said the talks are ongoing and proposals have been traded. "This isn't just two-handed poker" he said, referring to the multiple stakeholders that are negotiating concessions on behalf of the auto maker.
Mr. Wagoner said that the UAW's recent deal with rival Ford Motor Co. is not sufficient to meet GM's cost-cutting needs. "The Ford program does not meet our needs at all," he said. Ford will save about $500 million annually in hourly costs, thanks to a deal with the UAW that cuts wages to $55 an hour and makes other cuts, and it reduces the amount of cash Ford needs to contribute to a health-care trust, known as a Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Association, or VEBA.
GM's top executive addressed the hurting U.S. auto supplier base as well, saying that "the situation is getting more precarious," due to lower sales and dwingling cash reserves. He said the auto maker has told President Obama's auto task force that the government needs to provide "credit insurance" to the suppliers, meaning the government would guarantee certain promised revenue from auto makers that have not yet been received from auto makers because of the traditional timing of payments.
Mr. Wagoner said the auto maker didn't favor a system under which the car companies would speed up payments to suppliers.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123729863349255921.html?mod=yahoo_hs&ru=yahoo
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
The spillover from D-3's empty wallets is beginning to really hurt domestic auto suppliers. First, Ford spinoff Visteon (VC), which last week barely made a $16 million bond interest payment, last night joined Lear (which Carl Icahn tried to acquire unsuccesfully in early 2007) in announcing it would likely receive going concern language from its auditors:
The inclusion of such a paragraph in such report would result in defaults under certain indebtedness of the Company, which defaults, if not cured or waived prior to the expiration of the applicable grace period, would result in an event of default under the Company’s principal U.S. senior secured credit facilities. Such events of default, if they occur, provide the lenders the right to demand all amounts due under the respective agreements immediately due and payable, which may result in a cross-default under other indebtedness of the Company. The Company has commenced discussions with the Administrative Agents of its senior secured credit facilities, as well as with an ad hoc committee of lenders under its senior secured term loan (the “Ad Hoc Committee”), in order to obtain a waiver and/or amendment relating to such potential noncompliance; however, the Company can provide no assurances that such waiver and/or amendment can be obtained.
And in more bad news, earlier this morning Arvin Meritor (ARM) had its senior unsecured rating downgraded from B3 to Caa2 (with outlook negative) by Moody's. As part of its evaluation, Moody's stated the following provision as to the adverse outlook facing not only ARM but the entire auto suppliers space:
The negative outlook considers the challenges ArvinMeritor will face in implementing restructuring actions rapidly enough to address the deterioration in its businesses and the potential risks of its liquidity profile if the rate of cash consumption in the business cannot be stemmed. The negative outlook also considers the risk of financial covenant violations under the company's senior secured revolving credit facility over the near-term.




 

Imark

Forumer storico
The spillover from D-3's empty wallets is beginning to really hurt domestic auto suppliers. First, Ford spinoff Visteon (VC), which last week barely made a $16 million bond interest payment, last night joined Lear (which Carl Icahn tried to acquire unsuccesfully in early 2007) in announcing it would likely receive going concern language from its auditors:
The inclusion of such a paragraph in such report would result in defaults under certain indebtedness of the Company, which defaults, if not cured or waived prior to the expiration of the applicable grace period, would result in an event of default under the Company’s principal U.S. senior secured credit facilities. Such events of default, if they occur, provide the lenders the right to demand all amounts due under the respective agreements immediately due and payable, which may result in a cross-default under other indebtedness of the Company. The Company has commenced discussions with the Administrative Agents of its senior secured credit facilities, as well as with an ad hoc committee of lenders under its senior secured term loan (the “Ad Hoc Committee”), in order to obtain a waiver and/or amendment relating to such potential noncompliance; however, the Company can provide no assurances that such waiver and/or amendment can be obtained.
And in more bad news, earlier this morning Arvin Meritor (ARM) had its senior unsecured rating downgraded from B3 to Caa2 (with outlook negative) by Moody's. As part of its evaluation, Moody's stated the following provision as to the adverse outlook facing not only ARM but the entire auto suppliers space:
The negative outlook considers the challenges ArvinMeritor will face in implementing restructuring actions rapidly enough to address the deterioration in its businesses and the potential risks of its liquidity profile if the rate of cash consumption in the business cannot be stemmed. The negative outlook also considers the risk of financial covenant violations under the company's senior secured revolving credit facility over the near-term.





Per i suppliers la situazione è devastante... sta andando tutto in malora ... se segui le rating actions in maniera sistematica, come faccio io, ti accorgi che tutto il comparto sta avvitandosi su se stesso...

Per paradosso, credo proprio che su di loro si scaricherebbero almeno in un primo tempo le pesanti conseguenze di un Ch 11 di GM e di Chrysler ...
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
Per i suppliers la situazione è devastante... sta andando tutto in malora ... se segui le rating actions in maniera sistematica, come faccio io, ti accorgi che tutto il comparto sta avvitandosi su se stesso...

Per paradosso, credo proprio che su di loro si scaricherebbero almeno in un primo tempo le pesanti conseguenze di un Ch 11 di GM e di Chrysler ...

è la cosa che mi interessa direttamente di questa telenovela... perchè ho una azienda che spera di implementare un proprio prodotto nelle auto di serie nei prossimi anni. Ovvio che non sono felice di vedere Visteon fallire, anche se al momento non dovrebbe esserci nessuna conseguenza economica diretta...

l'ho già detto più volte, ma quando GM riduce dell'80% la produzione, come ha fatto a Gennaio, condanna già i fornitori al pre-bancarotta. Punto.

non mi preoccupa l'effetto "indotto" di un filing, perchè la sbarra di dove si pagano i crediti precedenti può essere discrezionale.

ma qui sono già oltre il punto di non ritorno, temo... :wall:
 

giuliana

Nuovo forumer
per jessica scusa come hai fatto a vendere prima di comprale,,,,, mi incuriosisci,,
grazie,,, mi riferivo alle g,mac
 

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