Obbligazioni societarie GM, Ford, Chrysler: il 3D dell'automotive USA (3 lettori)

paologorgo

Chapter 11
Mi stai diventando pure telepatico... :lol: :lol:

Ma ad Obama conviene portarla avanti ancora questa storia ?

Non è meglio provare a farla detonare prima la bomba ? Almeno ha due anni prima delle elezioni suppletive di rinnovo di parte consistente del parlamento ed ancora quasi 4 prima di correre per il secondo mandato...

di bilancio capisco poco, di politica meno... così Shark mi cita sul FOL di sicuro... :lol:

e se sacrificasse Chrysler per togliere il dubbio ai restanti che possono continuare a prenderlo in giro con finte ristrutturazioni inconcludenti... tanto quella è privata e la più piccola... e poi fa ingoiare le rotture contrattuali ottenute attraverso il giudice allo UAW anche per le altre due... ;)

fanta politica... non vorrei essere in Obama, comunque... questo è uno dei tanti problemi... neanche il più grosso... :cool:
 

Imark

Forumer storico
Gaudente di là ha fatto opera meritoria e glielo ha pure spiegato ... nessuno si è degnato neanche di un grazie... :D ;)

"Direi proprio di si'.
Uno dei problemi del Chapter 11 e' che tutti i crediti dei fornitori vengono congelati in toto, strozzandoli a tal punto da rendere impossibile la continuazione della produzione. Con questi 5 miliardi di ossigeno gli si da' liquidita' sufficiente ad assorbire il contraccolpo del Chapter 11."
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
Ford (F) says it does not need to participate in the new auto-supplier aid plan, as it expects no issues in paying suppliers. F +0.8%.
 

Imark

Forumer storico
Questa è bella: sarà il caso che qualcuno avverta Marchionne... :lol: :lol: Paolo, la fai tu la telefonata ? :D

Chrysler says Fiat to assume 35 percent of U.S. debt
  • Thursday March 19, 2009, 3:21 pm EDT
DETROIT (Reuters) - Chrysler said proposed partner Fiat SpA would assume 35 percent of its debt to the U.S. government and the U.S. automaker would no longer pay retention bonuses to key executives

"No new retention payments or any other form of bonus, will be awarded after January 2, 2009 as a result of the waivers signed by the company's top 25 executives," Chrysler said in a statement.

The statement follows public outrage over American International Group Inc's decision to pay $165 million in retention bonuses to some employees after accepting $180 billion in government aid to prop up the company.

Chrysler received a $4 billion emergency loan from the U.S. government on January 2 and has requested another $5 billion.

The automaker said in November that bonuses were owed under its contracts to key executives, based on a retention package that was crafted early in 2007 by former German parent Daimler AG when it was preparing to sell the Chrysler unit.

The U.S. Treasury had approved the retention payments earned prior to the receipt of government loans, the company said.

Separately, Chief Executive Bob Nardelli said Chrysler's proposed partnership with Fiat would represent billions in value, considering development costs for vehicles.

The No. 3 U.S. automaker has a nonbinding deal with Italian automaker Fiat, which has agreed to take a 35 percent stake in Chrysler in exchange for access to technology and overseas markets.

Under the terms of the deal, Fiat will not pay cash for the stake in Chrysler, which is 80.1 percent owned by Cerberus Capital Management (CBS.UL).

But in a video message praising the advantages of the deal with Fiat, Chrysler said Fiat would assume 35 percent of Chrysler's debt to U.S. government but would not receive any money from that pool.

"That's a significant commitment for Fiat," said Brad Coulter, restructuring advisor at Detroit area O'Keefe & Associates, who follows the auto industry closely.

In the same video, Nardelli said the proposed partnership was a "tremendous opportunity."

"We would leapfrog four, five or six years of development," he said. "It's a perfect fit, as opposed to conflicting brands, overlapping dealers, etc."
Chrysler also said the combined purchasing budget of the two companies would be $80 billion.

The automaker said earlier this week that the Fiat deal is worth up to $10 billion for Chrysler and could preserve 5,000 North American manufacturing jobs
 

lorenzo63

Age quod Agis
Questa è bella: sarà il caso che qualcuno avverta Marchionne... :lol: :lol: Paolo, la fai tu la telefonata ? :D

Chrysler says Fiat to assume 35 percent of U.S. debt
  • Thursday March 19, 2009, 3:21 pm EDT
DETROIT (Reuters) - Chrysler said proposed partner Fiat SpA would assume 35 percent of its debt to the U.S. government and the U.S. automaker would no longer pay retention bonuses to key executives

"No new retention payments or any other form of bonus, will be awarded after January 2, 2009 as a result of the waivers signed by the company's top 25 executives," Chrysler said in a statement.

The statement follows public outrage over American International Group Inc's decision to pay $165 million in retention bonuses to some employees after accepting $180 billion in government aid to prop up the company.

Chrysler received a $4 billion emergency loan from the U.S. government on January 2 and has requested another $5 billion.

The automaker said in November that bonuses were owed under its contracts to key executives, based on a retention package that was crafted early in 2007 by former German parent Daimler AG when it was preparing to sell the Chrysler unit.

The U.S. Treasury had approved the retention payments earned prior to the receipt of government loans, the company said.

Separately, Chief Executive Bob Nardelli said Chrysler's proposed partnership with Fiat would represent billions in value, considering development costs for vehicles.

The No. 3 U.S. automaker has a nonbinding deal with Italian automaker Fiat, which has agreed to take a 35 percent stake in Chrysler in exchange for access to technology and overseas markets.

Under the terms of the deal, Fiat will not pay cash for the stake in Chrysler, which is 80.1 percent owned by Cerberus Capital Management (CBS.UL).

But in a video message praising the advantages of the deal with Fiat, Chrysler said Fiat would assume 35 percent of Chrysler's debt to U.S. government but would not receive any money from that pool.

"That's a significant commitment for Fiat," said Brad Coulter, restructuring advisor at Detroit area O'Keefe & Associates, who follows the auto industry closely.

In the same video, Nardelli said the proposed partnership was a "tremendous opportunity."

"We would leapfrog four, five or six years of development," he said. "It's a perfect fit, as opposed to conflicting brands, overlapping dealers, etc."
Chrysler also said the combined purchasing budget of the two companies would be $80 billion.

The automaker said earlier this week that the Fiat deal is worth up to $10 billion for Chrysler and could preserve 5,000 North American manufacturing jobs

Mah: strano ma vero l' avevo già letta sul sole (o era MF?!?!') 2/3 giorni addietro...in sostanza: se Fiat vuole il 35% paga il 35% del debito...(ed in effetti appena letto "cara grazia che le ho vendute le mie fiat...")
+ che telefonare a Markionne forse è meglio telefonare a 3Monti...:D
 

albicocco

Forumer storico
A quanto ammonterebbe 1/3 del debito Chrysler ?
Che fine faranno i bond di Fiat(compresi i miei acquistati a 56 e ora a 52)?
CCC ?
 

Imark

Forumer storico
A quanto ammonterebbe 1/3 del debito Chrysler ?
Che fine faranno i bond di Fiat(compresi i miei acquistati a 56 e ora a 52)?
CCC ?

Tranquillo: pare che Marchionne abbia garantito che coprirà quel terzo del debito Chrysler con i proventi del raccolto degli zecchini d'oro sepolti sotto l'albero dei soldi, dopo che questo avrà dato i suoi frutti... :lol:

Fuori di metafora: la Fiat non ha la liquidità occorrente a fare fronte ai propri impegni nel lungo termine, ora come ora, figurarsi se può pensare di offrire garanzie sul debito altrui... ;)
 

stockuccio

Guest
http://whitepapers.stern.nyu.edu/summaries/ch17.html

How to Help GM
Based on these principles, there is indeed a case for government intervention in favor of GM, but this intervention should not be a give-away bailout.
The market failure that we identify is the disappearance of the debtor-in-possession (DIP) market because of the financial crisis. This provides a rationale for government intervention (first principle). To be efficient, the reorganization should be thorough, and therefore lengthy. This is why it should take place under Chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code (second principle). To minimize the costs to the tax payers, the government should provide DIP financing (directly or through private financial institutions) because DIP loans are well protected (third principle). Finally, reorganization in Bankruptcy does not reward bad management and therefore minimizes moral hazard (fourth principle).
We advocate a massive "DIP" loan to GM in bankruptcy. The current bailout plan would offer less of a breathing space to GM and imply more job cuts in the short run than our proposed bankruptcy/DIP financing plan. The DIP loan would allow the restructuring to take place over 18 to 24 months while the bailout would be barely sufficient to avoid liquidation in 2009. To further limit the ripple effects of GM's bankruptcy, the government should also consider backstopping warranties and spare parts availability, even if the reorganization fails.
 

Imark

Forumer storico
Tranquillo: pare che Marchionne abbia garantito che coprirà quel terzo del debito Chrysler con i proventi del raccolto degli zecchini d'oro sepolti sotto l'albero dei soldi, dopo che questo avrà dato i suoi frutti... :lol:

Fuori di metafora: la Fiat non ha la liquidità occorrente a fare fronte ai propri impegni nel lungo termine, ora come ora, figurarsi se può pensare di offrire garanzie sul debito altrui... ;)

Ed aggiungo: una quota del 35% mi sembra idonea ad escludere la possibilità di qualsivoglia supporto parentale... ;)
 

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