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Noloss

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Dato che frequenti il forum, puoi conoscere la risposta.
Altrimenti possiamo sempre interpellare l'oracolo di Delfi ... qui è di casa :lol:.


Direi al nostro frequentatore che abbassare il pmc non significa giungere alla pari. Anzi il primo riscontro sarà che si abbassi il pa (pressione arteriosa). Scherzi a parte, non sappiamo se ci sarà un ulteriore discesa da questi prezzi. Parlare poi di rialzo dei corsi in questi momenti non è il caso. Sei consapevole di questo?

Ho i miei forti dubbi... si potrebbero invece rastrellare tanti liquidi per alleviare il peso delle imposte dirette e indirette che spingono verso un quadro recessivo.

Non interverrei subito su quello "fiscale" per non creare turbative ad un sistema fragile.
Ma qui c'è lo stesso dualismo Italia/Svizzera con Grecia/Cipro.

Mi dispiace contraddirti ma un conto è asserire che un condono immobiliare possa risultare utile e un conto è quanto ti espongo, cioè il condono non è possibile farlo quindi non potrà essere utile. Manca l'oggetto del contendere. Se poi populisticamente lo si voglia fare sarà un risultato miserissimo. Posso dire inutile?!
 

tommy271

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Greek Church takes on 'antichrist' in ID card row
(AFP)


ATHENS — Senior clerics in Greece have told the state in no uncertain terms that vigilance is required to prevent the antichrist from making a manifestation on new ID cards to be issued next year.

The authorities must ensure that the cards contain no mention of the number 666, which in Greek Orthodox tradition is associated with the antichrist, the Church of Greece said in a statement.

"In no way should the 'citizen card' contain the number 666, either in visible or invisible manner," the Holy Synod, governing council of the Church of Greece, said after a meeting between canon scholars, legal experts, computer specialists and government officials.

"The Church is obliged to protect personal freedom and defend the integrity of the faith," the Holy Synod added.
State planners have pledged to take the observation on board, it said.

The new cards are to be finalised early next year.
The Church is officially part of the state in Greece.

Frequently criticised as backward and superstitious by liberal circles, Orthodox custodians strongly adhere to tradition surrounding the number 666, which appears in the biblical Book of Revelation, believed to have been written by the Apostle John in the first century AD.

Also known as the figure of the Beast, the number has led ultra orthodox clerics to oppose the use of bar codes on goods, as well as electronic checks carried out under the border-free Schengen Area of which Greece is a member.

A decade ago, the Church of Greece had fought tooth and nail to prevent the removal of religious affiliation from the previous batch of identity cards issued to Greeks, even organising a referendum on the issue.

At the time, religious minorities such as Catholics and Jews had successfully argued that the inclusion of faith on the cards could expose the bearer to discrimination.

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Un problema prioritario si è imposto con precedenza assoluta ...
 

tommy271

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Direi al nostro frequentatore che abbassare il pmc non significa giungere alla pari. Anzi il primo riscontro sarà che si abbassi il pa (pressione arteriosa). Scherzi a parte, non sappiamo se ci sarà un ulteriore discesa da questi prezzi. Parlare poi di rialzo dei corsi in questi momenti non è il caso. Sei consapevole di questo?



Mi dispiace contraddirti ma un conto è asserire che un condono immobiliare possa risultare utile e un conto è quanto ti espongo, cioè il condono non è possibile farlo quindi non potrà essere utile. Manca l'oggetto del contendere. Se poi populisticamente lo si voglia fare sarà un risultato miserissimo. Posso dire inutile?!

L'oggetto del contendere sono gli abusi immobiliari.
E, credo, alle case "fantasma".
Come ci sono dalle nostre parti, ci sono - a maggior ragione - in Grecia.
Si fanno un bel giretto in aereoplano fotografando il territorio, oppure - senza spendere troppo - possono andare su "Google Maps" ...
 

Grisù

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Continuo a pensare che sia una crisi politica ma staremo a vedere....

In my view, conditions in both money and financial markets have improved significantly over recent months, notwithstanding the most recent tensions in some segments of the European sovereign debt market.
  • Since summer, the amount of liquidity demanded in ECB refinancing operations has declined by about one third (not taking into account the CBPP: from EUR 881 bn on 30 June this year to EUR 510 bn today). As a consequence, excess liquidity has dropped by about 60% (from EUR 220 bn on 30 June to EUR 87 bn). This process has been driven by receding demand on the part of financial market participants.
  • Furthermore, we have experienced a re-activation of the interbank money market: The EONIA volume has nearly doubled since summer (from EUR 26.3 bn on 30 June to EUR 45.7 bn yesterday).
  • I would take this development as a positive sign that banks trust each other more.
ECB: The new normal
 

Grisù

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Volumi sempre irrisori...

Developments in the Greek government bond market : October 2010
Government bond prices fell and yields rose on international markets in October with the exception of prices at the short end of the yield curve in the US and in some of the so-called peripheral Euro-zone markets.
On the electronic secondary securities market for Greek government bonds (HDAT) prices fell and yields rose during October, in particular on medium-term bonds. The 5-year benchmark bond yield recorded the highest increase, by 103 basis points (bps) to 11.51% at the end of the month, while the 3-year benchmark bond yield rose by 20 bps to 10.65%. In the longer tenors, the 10-year benchmark bond yield rose by 28 bps to 10.76% and the 30-year benchmark bond yield by 32 bps to 8.84%. As a result, the yield curve remained inverted, with the difference between the 30- and the 3-year bond yields reaching -181 bps at the end of October from -193 bps at the end of September. In addition, the spread between the Greek and the German 10-year bond yields reached 820 bps at the end of October, compared with 824 bps at the end of September.
As for government benchmark bond prices, the 3-year bond price fell only marginally to 87.00 at the end of October from 87.05 at the end of September, the 5-year bond price fell to 80.51 from 83.57, the 10-year bond price to 73.58 from 74.80 and the 30-year bond price to 55.85 from 58.00.
Trading volume on HDAT in October increased to EUR 1.94 billion, compared with EUR 1.82 billion in the previous month and EUR 55.42 billion in October 2009. The daily average turnover was EUR 97.1 million in October compared with EUR 82.7 million during the previous month. The most actively traded bond during the month was the 5-year bond maturing on August 20, 2015 with EUR 386 million worth of transactions. Of the 1,655 orders executed on HDAT, 54% were “sell” orders and 46% “buy” orders.
 

call54

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dipende da quanto ce l'hai in carico....
se sono pochi punti, lascia stare........


grazie a tutti per i pareri.il mio pmc e' un po' alto (72,76)
capisco che in questo momento non e' facile fare previsioni e sbilanciarsi.poi e' chiaro che ognuno si assume la responsabilita' delle proprie azioni..
vediamo.ci penso ancora un po'...;-)
 

tommy271

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grazie a tutti per i pareri.il mio pmc e' un po' alto (72,76)
capisco che in questo momento non e' facile fare previsioni e sbilanciarsi.poi e' chiaro che ognuno si assume la responsabilita' delle proprie azioni..
vediamo.ci penso ancora un po'...;-)

Se il tuo è alto ... il mio è stellare :lol::lol::lol:.
Vai tranquillo, a mio parere l'importante è non esporsi per cifre "importanti" di portafoglio.
Poi dipende tutto dalle proprie capacità di voler fare trading oppure dalle sensibilità personali di rischio.

Se ritornano a 100 ci sono ampi margini di gain per tutti ...
 

lorixnt2

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Greek Church takes on 'antichrist' in ID card row
(AFP)


ATHENS — Senior clerics in Greece have told the state in no uncertain terms that vigilance is required to prevent the antichrist from making a manifestation on new ID cards to be issued next year.

The authorities must ensure that the cards contain no mention of the number 666, which in Greek Orthodox tradition is associated with the antichrist, the Church of Greece said in a statement.

"In no way should the 'citizen card' contain the number 666, either in visible or invisible manner," the Holy Synod, governing council of the Church of Greece, said after a meeting between canon scholars, legal experts, computer specialists and government officials.

"The Church is obliged to protect personal freedom and defend the integrity of the faith," the Holy Synod added.
State planners have pledged to take the observation on board, it said.

The new cards are to be finalised early next year.
The Church is officially part of the state in Greece.

Frequently criticised as backward and superstitious by liberal circles, Orthodox custodians strongly adhere to tradition surrounding the number 666, which appears in the biblical Book of Revelation, believed to have been written by the Apostle John in the first century AD.

Also known as the figure of the Beast, the number has led ultra orthodox clerics to oppose the use of bar codes on goods, as well as electronic checks carried out under the border-free Schengen Area of which Greece is a member.

A decade ago, the Church of Greece had fought tooth and nail to prevent the removal of religious affiliation from the previous batch of identity cards issued to Greeks, even organising a referendum on the issue.

At the time, religious minorities such as Catholics and Jews had successfully argued that the inclusion of faith on the cards could expose the bearer to discrimination.

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Un problema prioritario si è imposto con precedenza assoluta ...

Apperò, altro che Bossi, proporrei Roma per il ruolo di capitale d'Europa :-o
Perché a sto punto anche Benedetto ci fa la sua porca figura :lol::lol::lol:
 

call54

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Se il tuo è alto ... il mio è stellare :lol::lol::lol:.
Vai tranquillo, a mio parere l'importante è non esporsi per cifre "importanti" di portafoglio.
Poi dipende tutto dalle proprie capacità di voler fare trading oppure dalle sensibilità personali di rischio.

Se ritornano a 100 ci sono ampi margini di gain per tutti ...

:up::up::up:
 
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