TBRONX-OIL-V.M. 85 ASTENERSI PERDITEMPO W LU PILU (8 lettori)

dan24

Forumer storico
un bene, su quello non ci sono dubbi

si ma certo che usare un solo sontratto rende tutto piu difficila anche perchè "rende" poco e ti fa sembrare di guadagnare poco e allora chiedi troppo alla fortuna, DEVI sicuramente se puoi usare piu contratti, è il modo giusto di gestire i trade

poi (magari cominciando coi mini) prova ad usarne tipo almeno 10 .. ma non ci pensi che se usi 10 fib grossi e fai 100 punti (che al giorno d'oggi con la vola che c'è sono niente) fai 5000 euro? e se tu vuoi sentirti appagato dal guadagnare anche se chiudi subito fai cosi no? :)
se riesci a guardare solo al risultato-gain e non al fare i trade perfetti (cioè quello che fai ora) usa molti contratti che otterrai lo stesso guadagno di fare un trade perfetto di tutto un movimento con un solo contratto :help:


esatto...se uso 1-2 contratti devo prendere movimento grossini...
se passo a 10 vado con lo scalping...ma pur non avendo problemi di soldi e margini il mio obbiettov sarebbe salire di un contratto ogni margine gainato...e scendere se perdo ...a mo di martingala ma positiva...
 

gastronomo

Forumer storico
House Republicans Reconsider `No' Votes on Bailout (Update1)

By Ryan Donmoyer and Lorraine Woellert
Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- Some House Republicans, who were instrumental in defeating a financial-market rescue package earlier this week, are reconsidering their votes amid signs the crisis on Wall Street is spreading throughout the country.
At least three Republican lawmakers, John Shadegg of Arizona, Jim Gerlach of Pennsylvania and Patrick Tiberi of Ohio, may switch their ballots as the House prepares to vote on the measure again after the Senate last night approved the $700 billion bill on a 74-25 vote. A vote is likely tomorrow afternoon.
The legislation authorizes the government to buy troubled assets from financial institutions rocked by record home foreclosures. It contains provisions favored by House Republicans, including $149 billion in tax breaks, a higher limit on federal bank-deposit insurance and a change in securities laws. It also reiterates the authority of securities regulators to suspend asset-valuing rules that corporate executives blame for fueling the crisis.
Those sweeteners have helped sway Gerlach, as did phone calls from his suburban Philadelphia constituents. Many shifted from opposing the bailout to supporting it following the record 778-point drop in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after the House's 228-205 defeat of the legislation Sept. 29.
U.S. stocks dropped today. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index slid 33.60, or 2.9 percent, to 1,127.46 at 11.32 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 274.31, or 2.5 percent, to 10,556.76.
`More Republican Votes'
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said the level of support for the rescue plan among Democrats is unchanged.
``We expect there to be many more Republican votes if we're going to pass it,'' said Hoyer, a Maryland Democrat.
Gerlach's vote is one of at least 12 the proponents of the measure will need to succeed.
``The bill is becoming a much better bill,'' he said at a town-hall meeting of employees of Weston Solutions Inc., a West Chester-based environment and redevelopment company.
Shadegg, who also opposed the measure earlier this week, said he's ``strongly leaning'' toward supporting it now. Tiberi's spokeswoman Breann Gonzalez said the lawmaker is ``very encouraged'' by the changes to the Senate bill.
``The Congress now has to give the American people, indeed the economies of the world, some level of assurance that we're going to deal with this problem,'' Shadegg told ``Fox News'' last night.
Republican leaders suggested that the market reaction may spur some in their ranks to change their minds when the bill comes to a vote.
`The Big Drop'
``The big drop'' in the Dow Index ``really had a chilling effect on a lot of our members and a lot of their constituents,'' House Republican Leader John Boehner said on Fox. With changes made by the Senate, the legislation ``has a much better chance'' of passage this time, he said.
Companies are also pushing Congress to pass the measure, saying the curtailment of credit stemming from the financial crisis may result in job cuts.
Marriott International Inc., announcing its third-quarter earnings, urged Congress to ``quickly'' approve the package. Marriott said thousands of jobs are at risk because of the inability of companies to borrow money.
Yet the addition of the tax cuts, filled with special breaks for everything from an Oregon-based maker of wooden arrows to Virgin Islands rum-makers, may turn off some deficit-wary Democrats, who supported the original rescue package but don't back tax cuts without offsetting spending cuts or tax increases.
`Personally Disappointed'
``There are people who are upset that we are making the deficit worse as we try to stabilize the economy,'' Hoyer told reporters yesterday. Hoyer said he was ``personally disappointed' by the Senate's decision to include the tax legislation in the package.
The rescue plan contains $1.7 billion worth of targeted tax breaks over the next decade, the New York Post reported today.
So far, Democrats who may be put off by the added tax cuts haven't said they're switching positions. In all, 140 Democrats backed the bill along with 65 Republicans.
Two dozen of the 44-member Blue Dog Coalition of fiscally conservative Democrats voted for the bailout. Four of them said yesterday they'll continue to back the bill, even though their caucus derided the Senate's tax measures as irresponsible as recently as Monday.
``I will vote for the package coming from the Senate,'' said Oklahoma Representative Dan Boren. Other members of the coalition who voiced support included Representative Jane Harman of California, Representative Jim Marshall of Georgia and Representative Jim Cooper of Tennessee.
Tax Provisions
The larger tax provisions are anchored by a $62 billion measure that spares the alternative minimum tax from taking effect as scheduled for some 24 million American households this year. The levy, which was designed to target millionaires in 1969 but now affects households with incomes as low as $50,000, would cost households about $2,000 each this year if Congress didn't act.
A second clause would renew dozens of expired tax breaks relied on by businesses, including a research tax credit worth billions to thousands of companies ranging from CA Inc. to Merck & Co. Other major business provisions include a tax break for U.S.-based companies that finance equipment sales overseas, such as General Electric Co.
The third prong would renew about $17 billion worth of incentives for companies that produce energy from renewable sources such as solar and wind.
More Deductions
Other tax breaks in the bill include relief for people and companies affected by natural disasters. The legislation would also renew popular tax breaks for individuals such as a deduction for state and local sales taxes and a $250 deduction for teachers who buy their own classroom supplies. The legislation creates a new property tax deduction worth up to $1,000 for use by homeowners that claim the standard deduction and aren't currently able to write-off those local levies.
The legislation would pay for all the energy tax breaks and about half of the business and individual so-called extenders by curtailing breaks that oil companies get for job creation and overseas production, and by ending the deferral of taxes on profits earned in offshore funds.
President George W. Bush, whose administration originated the bailout proposal, was working the phones this morning, pressing wavering lawmakers, his spokesman said.
``The president is continuing to reach out to House members today,'' spokesman Tony Fratto said in an e-mail message. ``The calls have been very productive.''
Some of the 133 Republicans who opposed the measure aren't budging.
``The bill that they are going to send back is the same bill that I voted against,'' Representative Joe Barton of Texas told Bloomberg Television yesterday. ``Why would I turn around and vote for it tomorrow evening or Friday?''


...all about politics :-? ???
 

dan24

Forumer storico
ELENCO DELLE BANCHE

VALORE DEL CDS 5 YR

UBS 290
BARCLAYS 262
RCI BANQUE 229
LLOYDS - TSB BANK 193
ABN AMRO 182.70
ING BANK 172.70
DEUTSCHE BNAK 163.10
UNICREDIT 154.80
FINECO 154.80
CAPITALIA 154.80
BANCO POPOLARE 152.50
COMMERZBANK 144.30
BANCA POP MILANO 125
UBI BANCA 125
GRUPPO MPS 101
BNP PARIBAS 85.8
IMI SAN PAOLO - BANCA INTESA 83.3
ALLIANZ - RAS BANK 74




BANCHE DOVE NON SONO STATI TROVATI CDS

CREDITO VALTELLINESE
CREDITO EMILIANO - CREDEM
COMAX
C.R. RIMINI
C.R. LIVORNO
BPER - POP EMILIA ROMAGNA
BCA SAN MARINO
BCA POP SONDRIO
BANCA CELJE SLOVENIA
BANCA SELLA
BCA CARIGE

fonte: http://www.grtrends.com/graf_weekly_...Comit1973.html
 

Sharnin 2

Forumer storico
ELENCO DELLE BANCHE

VALORE DEL CDS 5 YR

UBS 290
BARCLAYS 262
RCI BANQUE 229
LLOYDS - TSB BANK 193
ABN AMRO 182.70
ING BANK 172.70
DEUTSCHE BNAK 163.10
UNICREDIT 154.80
FINECO 154.80
CAPITALIA 154.80
BANCO POPOLARE 152.50
COMMERZBANK 144.30
BANCA POP MILANO 125
UBI BANCA 125
GRUPPO MPS 101
BNP PARIBAS 85.8
IMI SAN PAOLO - BANCA INTESA 83.3
ALLIANZ - RAS BANK 74




BANCHE DOVE NON SONO STATI TROVATI CDS

CREDITO VALTELLINESE
CREDITO EMILIANO - CREDEM
COMAX
C.R. RIMINI
C.R. LIVORNO
BPER - POP EMILIA ROMAGNA
BCA SAN MARINO
BCA POP SONDRIO
BANCA CELJE SLOVENIA
BANCA SELLA
BCA CARIGE

fonte: http://www.grtrends.com/graf_weekly_...Comit1973.html
Veramente la fonte è questa:
http://intermarketandmore.investireoggi.it/dossier-banche-a-rischio-2858.html
 

gastronomo

Forumer storico
Gastro's dinner

Metto nel mixer 70gr farina 0, 30gr farina integrale, 1 uovo, poco sale, abbondante pepe nero macinato al mulinello, aghi di rosmarino triturati finemente, frullo, stendo la pasta alimentare col mattarello (dopo averla fatta riposare almeno 5/10 minuti), ottengo uno spessore di 1/2mm, ritaglio con una rotella o con il coltello dei maltagliati (rombi dai lati irregolari, circa 4/5cm per 1cm).

Prendo il broccolo verde siciliano, spunto le cimette e taglio grossolanamente il corpo (la parte piu chiara), lo immergo in acqua bollente leggermente salata per 3/4 minuti, lo estraggo con un ramaiolo (o ragno, che dir si voglia) e lo passo rapidamente in acqua fredda.
Del broccolo sbollentato e raffreddato una metà, composta principalmente del corpo del broccolo, la frullo aggiungendo progressivamente olio exv fino ad ottenere una purea, l'altra la metto in una teglia gia calda con olio, aglio vestito (ossia con la buccia, dopo 2 minuti va tolto) e un paio di acciughe dissalate. Questa parte di broccolo sarà pronta in 2/3 minuti. In un pentolino metto olio e passata di pomodoro e, a fiamma vivace, la faccio ridurre a 1/3.
Cuocio il maltagliati (massimo 3 minuti), li scolo e li metto nella teglia che contiene il broccolo. Ne termino la cottura bagnandoli con poca acqua di cottura del broccolo (che avrò conservato) a fiamma vivace.
Per impiattare: sul fondo del piatto metto la purea, poi i maltagliati passati in teglia nel broccolo, decoro con gocce di passato di pomodoro ristretto, finisco con una generosa spolverata di pecorino di Pienza giovane e una grattata di pepe nero. Buon appetito :)

Consiglio un vino rosso di poco corpo.
 

Fleursdumal

फूल की बुराई
ahh finalmente un intervento degno di cotal nick:D:prr:
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devi andare a rialzare (doppio senso) il vekkio tred delle recipes
 

gastronomo

Forumer storico
Qualunque cosa si rialzi non può che darmi gioia :rolleyes: (sto parlando per me, ovviamente :D).

Interessante la parte finale che ho evidenziato

U.S. Stocks Drop on Economic Data, Rising Bank Rates; GE Falls

By Lynn Thomasson
Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks dropped for a second day as a jump in borrowing costs and reports showing a worsening economy spurred concern that the government's $700 billion bank bailout plan won't be enough to stimulate growth.
Caterpillar Inc., Alcoa Inc. and Deere & Co. tumbled more than 5 percent as three-month bank lending rates climbed to the highest since January, while the government said factory orders declined more than forecast. General Electric Co. lost as much as 10 percent after selling $12.2 billion in shares at a discount. Monsanto Co. slid as much as 21 percent, its steepest intraday loss since going public in 2000, after Merrill Lynch & Co. said slumping demand will hurt farm companies.
``If banks aren't willing to lend money to a bank, are they going to be willing to lend to an average person? No, they're not,'' said Frank Ingarra, money manager at Hennessy Advisors Inc., which oversees $1.1 billion in Novato, California. ``We could be at the start of a pretty bad recession.''
The Standard & Poor's 500 Index slid 34.69, or 3 percent, to 1,126.37 at 1:33 p.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 270.09, or 2.5 percent, to 10,560.98. The Nasdaq Composite Index slipped 3.3 percent to 2,001.34. Ten stocks retreated for each that rose on the New York Stock Exchange.
`Flat on the Floor'
The S&P 500 has slumped 23 percent this year as the subprime mortgage crisis brought down banks including Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and made borrowing more expensive for companies and consumers. The benchmark index for U.S. stocks still trades for 21.8 times profit from the past 12 months. Only three of 48 developed and emerging nations tracked by MSCI Inc. -- Switzerland, Jordan and Morocco -- have a higher price-to- earnings ratio, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
Billionaire Warren Buffett, the world's preeminent stock picker, described the world's largest economy yesterday as being ``flat on the floor'' after a cardiac arrest.
Caterpillar, the biggest maker of earthmoving equipment, lost $3.56 to $53.38. Deere, the largest producer of tractors, declined 11 percent to $41.15.
The cost of borrowing in dollars in London for three months rose for a fourth day, signaling that banks haven't started to lend even after the U.S. Senate approved the plan to rescue beleaguered financial institutions. The London interbank offered rate, or Libor, that banks charge each other for such loans climbed 6 basis points to 4.21 percent today, the highest since Jan. 11.
`Liquidity Crisis'
The market for commercial paper plummeted the most on record as banks and insurers were unable to find buyers for the short- term debt. Commercial paper outstanding tumbled $94.9 billion, or 5.6 percent, to a seasonally adjusted three-year low of $1.6 trillion for the week ended Oct. 1, the Federal Reserve said. Financial paper accounted for most of the decline.
``There's a liquidity crisis going on that's putting investors on edge,'' said Alan Gayle, the Richmond, Virginia- based senior investment strategist at Ridgeworth Investments, which oversees about $70 billion. ``Liquidity is like oxygen. Lack of it can cause serious damage in a very short time.''
The S&P 500 Industrials Index lost 5.9 percent after the 4 percent decrease in bookings at factories topped the average forecast of economists in a Bloomberg survey. A separate government report showed first-time claims for unemployment benefits climbed to a seven-year high.
Investors can expect more details tomorrow when the government releases its monthly jobs report at 8:30 a.m. New York time. The U.S. may have lost 105,000 jobs in September, the ninth consecutive decline, economists predicted in a Bloomberg survey.
GE's Offering
GE, which got a $3 billion investment from Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc. yesterday, dropped $2.22 to $22.28 and lost as much as $2.45. The company sold stock today at a 9.2 percent discount to yesterday's closing price as it seeks to fund its operations.
GE's shares trade at a valuation of 10 times trailing earnings, the lowest since Bloomberg began tracking the data in 1990.
Raw-material producers in the S&P 500 sank to the lowest since 2006, falling 6 percent, after Merrill downgraded fertilizer stocks to ``underperform'' and Mosaic Co., the world's largest maker of phosphates, reported weaker-than-estimated earnings. The group's retreat was the steepest among 10 industries in the S&P 500, all of which declined today.
Merrill analysts cut their rating on Monsanto, the world's biggest seed producer, to ``neutral'' from ``buy,'' sending its shares down as much as $20.74 to $77.10. The stock pared its loss to 12 percent after the company said fiscal 2008 profit was about $3.64 a share, up from a previous estimate of as much as $3.60.
Mosaic Tumbles
Mosaic tumbled 35 percent to $43.97, its steepest retreat since its shares began trading in 2004. CF Industries Holdings Inc., a maker of nitrogen and phosphate fertilizers, slumped 30 percent to $62.29.
Alcoa slumped 8.3 percent to $19.50 after Goldman Sachs Group Inc. downgraded the largest U.S. aluminum producer to ``neutral'' from ``buy'' on concern metal demand will fall along with the weakening economy.
The Dow Jones Transportation Average lost 7.9 percent for the biggest drop in seven years. Con-way Inc., the second-largest U.S. trucking company, cut its annual profit outlook because of less freight demand and led the decline in the index of railroads, airlines and shippers. Con-way shares fell 19 percent to $34.94.
EBay Inc., the largest Internet auction company, lost 8.4 percent to $19.11. The shares were downgraded to ``equal-weight'' from ``overweight'' at Morgan Stanley, which said ``trends deteriorated more than expected'' in the third quarter.
Bailout Plan
The financial-market rescue legislation, which the House likely will act on tomorrow, passed the Senate on a 74-25 vote. It would give the Treasury Department authority to buy assets including mortgage-backed securities that are burdening financial institutions. The Senate added tax provisions to woo Republican votes in the House, where an earlier version of the bailout plan failed on Sept. 29 and sank the Dow average by 777-points.
``If I were a congressman I would hold my nose and vote yes, but people shouldn't be under any illusions about what's going to happen,'' Charles Bobrinskoy, who helps manage about $13 billion as vice chairman of Ariel Investments in Chicago, told Bloomberg Television.
The U.S. Securities and Exchange said it will extend a prohibition on short-sales of financial stocks, keeping restrictions on bets against companies' shares in place while Congress works on the bailout plan.
 

Fleursdumal

फूल की बुराई
ELENCO DELLE BANCHE

VALORE DEL CDS 5 YR

UBS 290
BARCLAYS 262
RCI BANQUE 229
LLOYDS - TSB BANK 193
ABN AMRO 182.70
ING BANK 172.70
DEUTSCHE BNAK 163.10
UNICREDIT 154.80
FINECO 154.80
CAPITALIA 154.80
BANCO POPOLARE 152.50
COMMERZBANK 144.30
BANCA POP MILANO 125
UBI BANCA 125
GRUPPO MPS 101
BNP PARIBAS 85.8
IMI SAN PAOLO - BANCA INTESA 83.3
ALLIANZ - RAS BANK 74




BANCHE DOVE NON SONO STATI TROVATI CDS

CREDITO VALTELLINESE
CREDITO EMILIANO - CREDEM
COMAX
C.R. RIMINI
C.R. LIVORNO
BPER - POP EMILIA ROMAGNA
BCA SAN MARINO
BCA POP SONDRIO
BANCA CELJE SLOVENIA
BANCA SELLA
BCA CARIGE

fonte: http://www.grtrends.com/graf_weekly_...Comit1973.html

ottimo dan , ora è da affiancare questa tabella a quella mia postata pagine fa sul leverage e abbiamo un bel quadro d'insieme:up:
 

f4f

翠鸟科
Gastro's dinner

Metto nel mixer 70gr farina 0, 30gr farina integrale, 1 uovo, poco sale, abbondante pepe nero macinato al mulinello, aghi di rosmarino triturati finemente, frullo, stendo la pasta alimentare col mattarello (dopo averla fatta riposare almeno 5/10 minuti), ottengo uno spessore di 1/2mm, ritaglio con una rotella o con il coltello dei maltagliati (rombi dai lati irregolari, circa 4/5cm per 1cm).

Prendo il broccolo verde siciliano, spunto le cimette e taglio grossolanamente il corpo (la parte piu chiara), lo immergo in acqua bollente leggermente salata per 3/4 minuti, lo estraggo con un ramaiolo (o ragno, che dir si voglia) e lo passo rapidamente in acqua fredda.
Del broccolo sbollentato e raffreddato una metà, composta principalmente del corpo del broccolo, la frullo aggiungendo progressivamente olio exv fino ad ottenere una purea, l'altra la metto in una teglia gia calda con olio, aglio vestito (ossia con la buccia, dopo 2 minuti va tolto) e un paio di acciughe dissalate. Questa parte di broccolo sarà pronta in 2/3 minuti. In un pentolino metto olio e passata di pomodoro e, a fiamma vivace, la faccio ridurre a 1/3.
Cuocio il maltagliati (massimo 3 minuti), li scolo e li metto nella teglia che contiene il broccolo. Ne termino la cottura bagnandoli con poca acqua di cottura del broccolo (che avrò conservato) a fiamma vivace.
Per impiattare: sul fondo del piatto metto la purea, poi i maltagliati passati in teglia nel broccolo, decoro con gocce di passato di pomodoro ristretto, finisco con una generosa spolverata di pecorino di Pienza giovane e una grattata di pepe nero. Buon appetito :)

Consiglio un vino rosso di poco corpo.

:):up:
 

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