Zorba
Bos 4 Mod
E' un punto delicato. Se l'Austria ha un resolution regime, i T1 delle austriache (step up e non) rischiano di qualificarsi come T2 perpetui.
Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 2 (28 lettori)
- Creatore Discussione caligola2005
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ferdo
Utente Senior
Could you please better clarify? Thanks
Also for purchasing on the secundary market?
I suppose you will run to buy up to 100k of greek bonds tomorrow morning
discipline
Forumer storico
Thanks, keep us informed about it. A few questions:
Is there any information about how they are going to identify individuals/investors vs other categories?
Do you think they are going to force the swap over all categories and then balance losses of individuals through a tax-compensation mechanism?
Did they ever mention purchase date as a factor to be eligible for this exemption? (ie. excluding those who're buying in these days or after a certain date)
Any information whether the 100k face value is referred to a single issue or to whole stock of GGBs an individual holds?
Following these statements, are small Greek investors accumulating loads of GGBs in 100k cuts at current prices?
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fabriziof
Forumer storico
penso che la cosa valga solo per i cittadini greci
Vet
Forumer storico
altro eseguito in buy verso le 16.30 40,50...adesso aspetto vediamo se questo "cadavere" come qualcuno l'aveva chiamata si alzerà[/QUOTE]
e sopratutto Camminerà........
akis63
Forumer attivo
Thanks, keep us informed about it. A few questions:
Is there any information about how they are going to identify individuals/investors vs other categories?
Do you think they are going to force the swap over all categories and then balance losses of individuals through a tax-compensation mechanism?
Did they ever mention purchase date as a factor to be eligible for this exemption? (ie. excluding those who're buying in these days or after a certain date)
Any information whether the 100k face value is referred to a single issue or to whole stock of GGBs an individual holds?
Following these statements, are small Greek investors accumulating loads of GGBs in 100k cuts at current prices?
Nothing is clear right now.
Just theories and opinions.
The only sure is what Mr Venizelos said that there will be a special mechanism of protection classes of the citizens who have invested in greek bonds.
On primary or secondary market this is not clear yet.
It isn't also clear how could they be paid these special categories of citizens.
A few weeks ago i read that all the retail investors they have first to accept PSI+ and next the Greek state will return them the rest of their initial capital.
On my opinion nothing is sure right now and this the reason that GR0110021236 is in Stuttgart at 33,20 which is an ever low!
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angy2008
Forumer storico
.... poteva dire "I'm sure"
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akis63
Forumer attivo
Yep, maybe. But who knows for sure?
maxolone
Forumer storico
***sns***
Censimento:
XS0468954523 Euro 1,675,000
XS0310904155 Euro 2,471,000
Totale: piú di 4 mio Euro
Abbiamo giá risposto alla sua risposta:
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Dear Mr Bosscha,
Thanks for your prompt reply.
We appreciate the attention you are giving us and the fact you are bringing our concerns to the CFO and the Director of Financial Markets.
The aim of our emails was not obviously to get insider knowledge as we do not want to know if something is being discussed or not within your organization in relation to such an operation.
What is important to us is to know if there are any impediments to such an operation. This should be considered a public information.
Impediments can be of regulatory nature ( the DE Nederlansche Bank might oppose it unless same quantity/quality of capital replaces the amount boughtback ( i.e. this is happening in Austria ), the EC might oppose it before SNS pays back 565 million Euros of state aid, plus a 50 percent premium, as well as 435 million euros of aid from a foundation ( i.e. this is happening in UK )) or economic reason ( for an unknown reason to us SNS might not able to book a capital ratio improvement or for other reasons the buyback would worsen and not improve the capital ratio itself).
Thanking you in advance for you reply,
With best regards,
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Censimento:
XS0468954523 Euro 1,675,000
XS0310904155 Euro 2,471,000
Totale: piú di 4 mio Euro
Abbiamo giá risposto alla sua risposta:
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Dear Mr Bosscha,
Thanks for your prompt reply.
We appreciate the attention you are giving us and the fact you are bringing our concerns to the CFO and the Director of Financial Markets.
The aim of our emails was not obviously to get insider knowledge as we do not want to know if something is being discussed or not within your organization in relation to such an operation.
What is important to us is to know if there are any impediments to such an operation. This should be considered a public information.
Impediments can be of regulatory nature ( the DE Nederlansche Bank might oppose it unless same quantity/quality of capital replaces the amount boughtback ( i.e. this is happening in Austria ), the EC might oppose it before SNS pays back 565 million Euros of state aid, plus a 50 percent premium, as well as 435 million euros of aid from a foundation ( i.e. this is happening in UK )) or economic reason ( for an unknown reason to us SNS might not able to book a capital ratio improvement or for other reasons the buyback would worsen and not improve the capital ratio itself).
Thanking you in advance for you reply,
With best regards,
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- Stato