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Mi chiedo come si possa essere il Presidente dell'EBF e fare dichiarazioni di questo tipo. Naturalmente Bloomberg va a nozze con tipi così, titolando in modo esasperato per accentuare il bombardamento:

Europe’s Banks Should Keep Dumping Italian Bonds, Clausen Says
November 14, 2011, 3:23 AM EST

Nov. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Europe’s banks need to keep dumping Italian bonds and other assets tainted by the region’s debt woes to avoid being sucked into the epicenter of the crisis, said Christian Clausen, president of the European Banking Federation.

“The banks are doing exactly what they should be doing: they are reducing their risk toward this event. We can see that clearly as now Italian bonds are being sold off,” Clausen, who is also the chief executive officer of Nordea Bank AB, said in an interview in Stockholm. “They should keep doing what they are doing. The banks are actually moving out of the epicenter.”

The yield on Italian 10-year bonds surpassed 7 percent last week, the level that prompted Greece, Ireland and Portugal to seek bailouts, as investors fled the third-largest euro economy and its 1.9 trillion-euro ($2.6 trillion) debt burden. Europe’s banks are offloading assets infected by the debt crisis to meet stricter capital rules, said Clausen of the Brussels-based EBF, which represents Europe’s national bankers associations.

Lawmakers in Rome this weekend passed budget cuts to reduce Italy’s debt, which the European Commission estimates reached 120.5 percent of gross domestic product this year. Tensions over the austerity bill toppled Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi’s government and will see in an administration likely to be led by former European Union Competition Commissioner Mario Monti.

Europe’s banks will need to raise 106 billion euros in fresh capital under tougher rules being introduced in response to the euro area’s sovereign-debt crisis, the European Banking Authority said last month. The extra reserves are needed to meet a temporary requirement for lenders to hold 9 percent in core reserves, after sovereign-debt writedowns.

CoCos for All

Banks’ “actual holdings in bonds” sold by Europe’s most indebted sovereigns “have come down quite dramatically,” Clausen said in the Nov. 10 interview. “The banks are raising capital, they are holding back retained earnings, all kinds of things.”

Clausen said it’s likely that Europe’s banks will make broad use of hybrid capital to meet tougher regulatory requirements. Contingent convertible bonds that convert to equity when banks’ reserves slip below a given level, or CoCos, will become a standard feature of banks’ balance sheets, he said.

“All banks will have to do that. This will be all over,” he said. “There will be core capital and then extra capital. All banks will have to add in other types of capital.”

The political response to the debt crisis so far shows there is a determination to keep the currency bloc intact, Clausen said. Still, the unraveling of governments in Greece and Italy amid opposition to austerity programs presents a risk to the integrity of the single currency bloc, he said.

Euro Risk

“I don’t think, for now, there is a euro risk, as such,” Clausen said. “But there is a risk that if the governments don’t start to really work on this, there might be a real euro risk at the end.”

In Sweden, home to Nordea, regulators want banks to adhere to tougher requirements than those targeted elsewhere. The largest Nordic country should impose higher capital requirements than most European countries because its bank industry is more than four times the size of the nation’s economy, Financial Markets Minister Peter Norman said in an interview. The spread of Europe’s debt crisis to Italy underlines the need for bigger buffers to guard against losses, he said.

If the Italian “crisis affects, for example, French banks, the banks are so entangled that it will affect Swedish banks,” he said. “It is important for the Swedish taxpayers to have higher capital requirements than the rest of Europe.”

‘No Bank Is Bulletproof’

Sweden’s four biggest banks, Nordea, Svenska Handelsbanken AB, SEB AB and Swedbank AB, should have core Tier 1 capital ratios that are “a few percentage points more” than the 10 percent minimum Sweden is targeting by 2013, Lars Frisell, the chief economist at the country’s financial watchdog and a member of the Basel Committee for Banking Supervision, said in an Oct. 24 interview.

“No bank is bulletproof these days, but they are much better prepared than they were back in 2008,” said Jan Erik Gjerland, an analyst at DNB ASA in Oslo.

The Swedish government will propose capital requirements for its banks by the end of the year, Norman said last week.
 
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angy2008

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la ventata di ottimismo si stà già smorzando, unico in salita è il petrolio .. sarà che qualcuno lo considera un bene rifugio meglio dell'oro
 

Vet

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forse perchè in US i consumi vanno bene e si preparano per il Natale?!

forse i consumi vanno bene ....ma loro economia sta andando a rotoli ....così i loro cugini inglesi che tolto Londra oramai il livello di povertà nel resto del paese e' a livelli allarmanti.......ma si sa tutti e due possono stampare tutto il denaro che vogliono.......finche' gli danno credito ....e su di loro non si accendono i riflettori come in Europa
 

frankiemachine

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prezzi con I.w. :

MPS 827 58 / 59,5 :eek: :eek:
BPCE558 74 /75
Bawag897 46 /49

OT : Air Berlin 0B4 : 78 /80

Era 10 gg che non aggiornavo le quotazioni per non collassare , ma è meglio se non le guardo per altri 10 anni :lol: :lol:

Secondo voi, BPCE 558 a questi prezzi vale un'entrata ? Sono indeciso..... quanto c'è di vero nelle voci di declassamento Francia e che impatto avrebbe sulle P francesi e su questa in particolare ?

Secondo me, veritiere o meno, le francesi soffriranno ancora nei prox gg.....io aspetto

Alle 9.00 di questa mattina BPCE stava a 77-78 :eek:
 

maxolone

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A Bloomberg sono piu' sensazionalisti del Sun

Mi chiedo come si possa essere il Presidente dell'EBF e fare dichiarazioni di questo tipo. Naturalmente Bloomberg va a nozze con tipi così, titolando in modo esasperato per accentuare il bombardamento:

Europe’s Banks Should Keep Dumping Italian Bonds, Clausen Says
November 14, 2011, 3:23 AM EST

Nov. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Europe’s banks need to keep dumping Italian bonds and other assets tainted by the region’s debt woes to avoid being sucked into the epicenter of the crisis, said Christian Clausen, president of the European Banking Federation.

“The banks are doing exactly what they should be doing: they are reducing their risk toward this event. We can see that clearly as now Italian bonds are being sold off,” Clausen, who is also the chief executive officer of Nordea Bank AB, said in an interview in Stockholm. “They should keep doing what they are doing. The banks are actually moving out of the epicenter.”

The yield on Italian 10-year bonds surpassed 7 percent last week, the level that prompted Greece, Ireland and Portugal to seek bailouts, as investors fled the third-largest euro economy and its 1.9 trillion-euro ($2.6 trillion) debt burden. Europe’s banks are offloading assets infected by the debt crisis to meet stricter capital rules, said Clausen of the Brussels-based EBF, which represents Europe’s national bankers associations.

Lawmakers in Rome this weekend passed budget cuts to reduce Italy’s debt, which the European Commission estimates reached 120.5 percent of gross domestic product this year. Tensions over the austerity bill toppled Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi’s government and will see in an administration likely to be led by former European Union Competition Commissioner Mario Monti.

Europe’s banks will need to raise 106 billion euros in fresh capital under tougher rules being introduced in response to the euro area’s sovereign-debt crisis, the European Banking Authority said last month. The extra reserves are needed to meet a temporary requirement for lenders to hold 9 percent in core reserves, after sovereign-debt writedowns.

CoCos for All

Banks’ “actual holdings in bonds” sold by Europe’s most indebted sovereigns “have come down quite dramatically,” Clausen said in the Nov. 10 interview. “The banks are raising capital, they are holding back retained earnings, all kinds of things.”

Clausen said it’s likely that Europe’s banks will make broad use of hybrid capital to meet tougher regulatory requirements. Contingent convertible bonds that convert to equity when banks’ reserves slip below a given level, or CoCos, will become a standard feature of banks’ balance sheets, he said.

“All banks will have to do that. This will be all over,” he said. “There will be core capital and then extra capital. All banks will have to add in other types of capital.”

The political response to the debt crisis so far shows there is a determination to keep the currency bloc intact, Clausen said. Still, the unraveling of governments in Greece and Italy amid opposition to austerity programs presents a risk to the integrity of the single currency bloc, he said.

Euro Risk

“I don’t think, for now, there is a euro risk, as such,” Clausen said. “But there is a risk that if the governments don’t start to really work on this, there might be a real euro risk at the end.”

In Sweden, home to Nordea, regulators want banks to adhere to tougher requirements than those targeted elsewhere. The largest Nordic country should impose higher capital requirements than most European countries because its bank industry is more than four times the size of the nation’s economy, Financial Markets Minister Peter Norman said in an interview. The spread of Europe’s debt crisis to Italy underlines the need for bigger buffers to guard against losses, he said.

If the Italian “crisis affects, for example, French banks, the banks are so entangled that it will affect Swedish banks,” he said. “It is important for the Swedish taxpayers to have higher capital requirements than the rest of Europe.”

‘No Bank Is Bulletproof’

Sweden’s four biggest banks, Nordea, Svenska Handelsbanken AB, SEB AB and Swedbank AB, should have core Tier 1 capital ratios that are “a few percentage points more” than the 10 percent minimum Sweden is targeting by 2013, Lars Frisell, the chief economist at the country’s financial watchdog and a member of the Basel Committee for Banking Supervision, said in an Oct. 24 interview.

“No bank is bulletproof these days, but they are much better prepared than they were back in 2008,” said Jan Erik Gjerland, an analyst at DNB ASA in Oslo.

The Swedish government will propose capital requirements for its banks by the end of the year, Norman said last week.
 

Vet

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Prese Ba.ca w70.......parte a 33 e parte a 34....se Zorba li prende a meno....gli sfascio tutti i suoi quadri.....
 
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