Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 3

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Grazie , mi ero scordato questa discussione cui pure avevo partecipato .Certo che questa non scambia 100K euro al giorno , e con questi volumi se il mercato l' ha portata a 120 direi che in molti , molto più bravi di me , hanno la mia stessa convinzione......
 
Grazie , mi ero scordato questa discussione cui pure avevo partecipato .Certo che questa non scambia 100K euro al giorno , e con questi volumi se il mercato l' ha portata a 120 direi che in molti , molto più bravi di me , hanno la mia stessa convinzione......
ma, effettivamente anch'io passando più volte avanti e indietro il prospetto trovo solo questo
l'unico dubbio potrebbe essere il punto (iii) in cui si fa riferimento alla possibilità di cancellare una parte/una classe di Participations (partecipazioni?) a cui i certificati sono collegati

Term; right to repayment
The Rabobank Participations are perpetual and have no fixed maturity date. The Rabobank Participations may be cancelled in case:
(i) of dissolution of Rabobank without its business being continued;
(ii) Rabobank holds any Rabobank Certificates and the Executive Board resolves to cancel the related Rabobank Participations, subject to the approval of the Supervisory Board; and
(iii) the Executive Board resolves to cancel (part of) (a class of) the Rabobank Participations, subject to the prior consent of the Supervisory Board and provided that Rabobank has sufficient own funds to effect such cancellation.
A cancellation as referred to under (ii) or (iii) may only be effected with the permission of the ECB, the DNB or any other relevant competent authority at such time and subject to any conditions which the ECB, the DNB or any other such competent authority at such time may attach to such permission. In the event of cancellation as referred to under (iii), the nominal value of the relevant class of Rabobank Participations must be repaid on each Rabobank Participation in that class.
The Rabobank Participations and the Rabobank Certificates, including the Offer Certificates, are the most deeply subordinated capital of Rabobank. If Rabobank is dissolved, the nominal value of each Rabobank Participation may be repaid on each Rabobank Participation only after all creditors are paid in full. If the remaining capital of Rabobank is insufficient to repay all Rabobank Participations, an amount will be repaid on each Rabobank Participation pro rata to the total nominal amount of the outstanding Rabobank Participations. Any amount received on the Rabobank Participations will be distributed by Stichting AK Rabobank to the holders of Rabobank Certificates. The dissolution of Rabobank may be subject to the permission of the ECB, the DNB, the SRB or any other competent authority at such time.
For further information, see “Risk Factors—The Offer Certificates are perpetual and have no fixed maturity date. The Rabobank Participations and the Rabobank Certificates, including the Offer Certificates, are the most deeply subordinated capital of Rabobank. Upon dissolution of Rabobank, holders of Offer Certificates could receive less than they have invested in the Offer Certificates” and “Regulation of the Group—European Union legislation—Bank Recovery and Resolution Directive”.
 
Grazie , mi ero scordato questa discussione cui pure avevo partecipato .Certo che questa non scambia 100K euro al giorno , e con questi volumi se il mercato l' ha portata a 120 direi che in molti , molto più bravi di me , hanno la mia stessa convinzione......

ragazzi io negli appunti ho segnato call option ad ogni stacco cedola poi che il mercato creda che non calli da quì ai prossimi tot. anni (a torto o a ragione) quello è un altro paio di maniche
 
ragazzi io negli appunti ho segnato call option ad ogni stacco cedola poi che il mercato creda che non calli da quì ai prossimi tot. anni (a torto o a ragione) quello è un altro paio di maniche

Qualche mese fa hanno emesso una nuova tranche di questa emissione e pure cospicua. Quindi la call non dovrebbe essere troppo vicina (almeno lo spero).
 
10/27/2017 | 10:26am EDT
The European Central Bank could shelve a planned crackdown on the euro zone's huge stock of unpaid loans if it is satisfied with the banks' own plans to deal with the matter, a top ECB supervisor said on Friday.
Ignazio Angeloni's comments follow a fierce backlash in Italy, home to a third of the euro zone's bad loans, against new ECB rules forcing banks to set aside more money against loans that sour.
These were scheduled to be complemented by measures on legacy unpaid credit, a far thornier issue worth 843 billion euro ($978 billion), in the new year. But Angeloni said this would depend on whether banks' own plans go far enough
"The analysis of the banks' plans is not yet complete," Angeloni told a conference.
"Depending on how satisfactory that part of the plan is, we will by the end of the first quarter of next year determine whether or not an additional backstop also on the stock is needed."
The ECB's latest guidelines, which give banks seven years to make provisions for newly soured credit backed by collateral and two years for unsecured debt, are not binding but banks have to explain any deviation and may face higher capital demands.
The main worry for Italy is that its banks, if asked to set aside more money, may curtail lending or need to raise capital. This task has eluded Monte dei Paschi di Siena and two regional lenders in recent months, triggering state interventions.
Reuters reported last week ECB supervisors had been working on similar guidelines for the stock of bad loans but were now having to change tack due to the coordinated Italian backlash.
ECB vice president Vitor Constancio said on Thursday the approach to tackling legacy credit would be "different" and "careful".
The Italian banking lobby, government, central bank and even top European parliamentarians said the new rules jeopardised economic growth and went beyond Frankfurt's remit.
 
Ciao,
possibile che BPCE abbia rimborsato con valuta 29 settembre un bond con scadenza 30 settembre? Io attendevo il rimborso i 2 ottobre visto che il 30 settembre era sabato.
Non riesco a capire..se qualche utente ha questo bond per favore potrebbe controllare la valuta di rimborso, perché la differenza cambio euro dollaro tra il 29 settembre e il 2 ottobre non è trascurabile. Grazie



ti ho risposto in mp,
leggilo
 

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