Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 3

infatti. La profilazione a professionale implica la conoscenza della materia , pertanto i limiti di negoziazione devono essere per forza superati.
D’altra parte essere pro ti fa’ perdere tutti i meccanismi di tutela previsti per il retail


Vero...ma l’altra faccia della medaglia e’ che non riesci più a trattare niente a livello obbligazionario che abbia un minimo di rendimento , ma la presa per il culo e’ che puoi trattare tutte le azioni che vuoi come se comportassero meno rischi delle obbligazioni e quindi senior rispetto alle obbligazioni......a pesar male si fa peccato ma spesso ci si azzecca diceva un noto politico del passato
 
ma la presa per il culo e’ che puoi trattare tutte le azioni che vuoi come se comportassero meno rischi delle obbligazioni e quindi senior rispetto alle obbligazioni......a pesar male si fa peccato ma spesso ci si azzecca diceva un noto politico del passato
però se compri un'azione e viene azzerata non puoi fare causa alla banca
 
Puoi cortesemente descrivere alcuni di questi meccanismi ?


Sui retail ad esempio la banca deve dimostrare che il prodotto venduto e’ stato adeguato al profilo di rischio, sul professionale no.
Il retail puo’ andare all’arbitrato della Consob (dopo aver fatto un reclamo x controversia), il professionale no ecc
 
Sui retail ad esempio la banca deve dimostrare che il prodotto venduto e’ stato adeguato al profilo di rischio, sul professionale no.
Il retail puo’ andare all’arbitrato della Consob (dopo aver fatto un reclamo x controversia), il professionale no ecc
Francamente mi sembrano regole assurde che comunque saranno state prima proposte da " qualcuno " e poi accettate da " qualcun altro".
Gli investitori professionali dovrebbero fare una specie di class action per ridefinire le regole, ma dubito sia possibile.
Grazie per la risposta
 
Francamente mi sembrano regole assurde che comunque saranno state prima proposte da " qualcuno " e poi accettate da " qualcun altro".
Gli investitori professionali dovrebbero fare una specie di class action per ridefinire le regole, ma dubito sia possibile.
Grazie per la risposta

Il concetto di fondo e’ che il professionale dovrebbe fare il trader\investirore di lavoro, pertanto nella piena consapevolezza delle regole\rischi
 
Casino Guichard-Perrachon SA (CO.FR) said Monday that it has agreed to sell 26 hypermarkets and supermarkets worth 501 million euros ($569.2 million) to Fortress Investment Group, and that it has reached its asset-disposal target of EUR1.5 billion.
 
Buongiorno,



emissione Assicurazioni Generali:


Issuer: Assicurazioni Generali S.p.A.

Description: EUR Fixed Rate Senior Dated Subordinated Notes

(Tier 2)

Issuer Financial Strength: Baa1, Stable (Moody’s) / A-, Negative (Fitch) /

A, Stable (A.M. Best)

Expected Issue Ratings: Baa3 (hyb)(Moody’s) / BBB(Fitch) / A-(A.M. Best)

Status of the Notes: Senior Dated Subordinated Notes (as set out in

Condition 4.1 (Status – Senior Dated Subordinated

Notes) of the Terms and Conditions of the Tier 2 Notes

Amount: EUR 500mm (no grow)

Settlement Date: [●] January 2019 [T+●]

Scheduled Maturity Date: Interest Payment Date falling on [●] January 2029,

subject to Conditions to Redemption below

Initial Price Thoughts: 4.625% area

Coupon: [●] % per annum payable annually in arrear

Mandatory Interest Deferral: Cash cumulative, upon the occurrence of a Solvency

Capital Event (meaning non-compliance with the SCR

(or that payment of interest or principal on the

Notes would lead to such non-compliance); any other

event which would require a deferral or suspension of

payment of interest or principal under the Applicable

Regulations for Tier 2 Own Funds qualification); if

interest payment would result in or accelerate

insolvency of the Issuer; or if Lead Regulator

determines that Solvency Margin would fall below SCR

in the short term

Arrears of Interest: Compulsory payment of Arrears of Interest on the

earlier of (i) the first Interest Payment Date

following receipt by Fiscal Agent of notice that the

event or circumstance giving rise to interest

deferral has been remedied and on which a mandatory

interest deferral is not required, (ii) redemption

and (iii) the date on which a Liquidazione Coatta

Amministrativa of Assicurazioni Generali S.p.A.

commences or on which the Issuer becomes subject to a

liquidation order

Early Redemption Rights: At par at any time upon Tax, Regulatory or Rating

Events (in each case subject to Conditions to

Redemption and that any redemption prior to the fifth

anniversary of the Issue Date (x) must be funded

by issuance of equivalent or better quality capital;

or (y) to the extent permitted under then prevailing

Applicable Regulations, any alternative or additional

pre-conditions to redemption that need to be met in

order for the Notes to be redeemed at such time are

met)

Conditions to Redemption: Any redemption of the Notes, including redemption on

Scheduled Maturity Date, is subject to (i) no

Solvency Capital Event, (ii) approval of the Lead

Regulator, and (iii) such redemption not resulting

in, or accelerating, the Issuer becoming insolvent.

If the above conditions are not satisfied at the

Scheduled Maturity Date or the proposed redemption

date, the redemption of the Notes shall be postponed

in accordance with the terms and conditions

Modification/Exchange: Yes, upon Tax, Regulatory or Rating Events

Documentation: Issuer’s EUR 15,000,000,000 EMTN Programme dated 23

May 2018 and supplemented on 8 August 2018

Specified denomination: EUR 100,000 + 1,000

Listing: Luxembourg Stock Exchange Regulated Market

Form: RegS Bearer (TEFRA D rules apply)

Selling Restrictions: RegS Compliance Category 2: TEFRA D; no

communications with or into the US; no sales into

Canada; prohibition of Sales to EEA Retail Investors

Governing Law: English law, except the status of the Notes which is

governed by Italian law

Global Coordinators: GSI, HSBC

Joint Bookrunners: BNP Paribas, GSI, HSBC (B&D), Mediobanca, Santander

and UniCredit

Fees: The Joint Bookrunners will be paid a fee by the

Issuer in respect of their participation in the

transaction

Timing: Today's business

MiFID II Target Market/PRIIPs: Manufacturer target market (MiFID II product

governance) is eligible counterparties and

professional clients only (all distribution

channels). No PRIIPs key information document (KID)

has been prepared as not available to retail in EEA



CDS 5yr Sub 200 bps
 

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