COMMODITIES ... solo per pochi pazzi !!! (5 lettori)
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giomf
Forumer storico
Segnalo questa buona newsletter sulle commodities . .
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http://www.ageitalia.net/spag.htm . .
fra l' altro anche poco costosa . .
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http://www.ageitalia.net/spag.htm . .
fra l' altro anche poco costosa . .
giomf
Forumer storico
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E così . .( guardando gli storici a lungo ) . . mio cognato che non capisce nulla
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MA PROPRIO NULLA di finanza . . si ritrova ora , dato che ha acquistato lingotti di Oro fisico
. . circa 5-6 anni fa . . .
ad avere ora un gradagno enorme . . se monetizzasse il tutto . . .
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e , in pratica , non si rende neanche conto da dove gli venga questo guadagno . .
( e noi ci impazziamo a tradare i futures . . giorno-giorno . . !! . )
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E così . .( guardando gli storici a lungo ) . . mio cognato che non capisce nulla
.
MA PROPRIO NULLA di finanza . . si ritrova ora , dato che ha acquistato lingotti di Oro fisico
. . circa 5-6 anni fa . . .
ad avere ora un gradagno enorme . . se monetizzasse il tutto . . .
.
e , in pratica , non si rende neanche conto da dove gli venga questo guadagno . .
( e noi ci impazziamo a tradare i futures . . giorno-giorno . . !! . )
.
ditropan
Forumer storico
Giorno bbanda 
... stamane stavo d'ando un'occhiata al wheat di Minneapolis ... oramai come ogni mattina è diventata consuetudine ...
... e devo proprio dire che ...
... questi sono proprio fuori come dei cammelli !!!
... 9 limit-up consecutuvi tutti di fila, e non è che i prezzi partissero dai minimi, bensì da massimi storici.
Praticamente il wheat primaverile costa più della soia e ben 4,5$ più del normale wheat ... rsi oramai fuori scala ... ma questi si stanno rendendo conto di cosa stanno comperando o no ?
... per conto mio gli si è bloccato il tasto BUY della tastiera ed è più di un mese che cercano di ripararlo !!!
... stamane stavo d'ando un'occhiata al wheat di Minneapolis ... oramai come ogni mattina è diventata consuetudine ...
... e devo proprio dire che ...
... questi sono proprio fuori come dei cammelli !!!
... 9 limit-up consecutuvi tutti di fila, e non è che i prezzi partissero dai minimi, bensì da massimi storici.
Praticamente il wheat primaverile costa più della soia e ben 4,5$ più del normale wheat ... rsi oramai fuori scala ... ma questi si stanno rendendo conto di cosa stanno comperando o no ?
... per conto mio gli si è bloccato il tasto BUY della tastiera ed è più di un mese che cercano di ripararlo !!!
ditropan
Forumer storico
... se con l'euro che collassa assieme a tutte le MP che perdono tra 1,5% ed il 3% il wheat trova forza e coraggio di rompere il triplo massimo ... bè ... allora c'è una sola cosa da fare ... stoppare tutti gli short in essere !
... e per chi ha le contr.o.p@lle girarsi long, questo pazzo và a raggiungere suo cugino di Minneapolis !
... io flat che più flat non si può. 
... e per chi ha le contr.o.p@lle girarsi long, questo pazzo và a raggiungere suo cugino di Minneapolis !
... io flat che più flat non si può.
ditropan
Forumer storico
ditropan ha scritto:... se con l'euro che collassa assieme a tutte le MP che perdono tra 1,5% ed il 3% il wheat trova forza e coraggio di rompere il triplo massimo ... bè ... allora c'è una sola cosa da fare ... stoppare tutti gli short in essere !
... e per chi ha le contr.o.p@lle girarsi long, questo pazzo và a raggiungere suo cugino di Minneapolis !
Immagine sostituita con URL per un solo Quote: http://www.investireoggi.net/forum/immagini/1202226740azz1.jpg
... io flat che più flat non si può.
... ok ...wheat in limit-up ... ciao ciao, ci rivediamo a 1200 ... e mo sò c.a.z.z.i per chi è short !
Fleursdumal
फूल की बुराई
infatti vecio a Minneapolis hanno alzato il trading limit a 40c e stanno meditando di farlo anche a Chicago , sarebbe altra vola aggiunta
U.S. grain handlers urge CFTC go slow on fund rules
Tue Feb 5, 2008
CHICAGO, Feb 5 (Reuters) - The largest U.S. grain industry organization on Tuesday asked government regulators to reject proposals that would allow big Wall Street investment funds larger and more active positions in grain futures markets.
The National Grain and Feed Association (NGFA) said it told the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) it opposed a CFTC proposal to establish a new "risk-management exemption" on the size of speculative positions that index and pension fund traders can control in grain futures or options contracts.
NGFA -- which groups 900 grain processors and exporters operating about 6,000 facilities -- in recent months has spread alarms about the financial squeeze its members are in due to unprecedented rallies in grain prices.
NGFA has blamed a huge influx of investment money from Wall Street investors for part of the price gains, which have created huge strains on grain owners to pay higher and higher "margin calls" to finance bank-mandated "hedges" in futures.
"Such traditional hedgers have seen a dramatic increase in recent months in the amount of money needed to finance margin requirements on outstanding futures contracts," NGFA said in a statement.
"In this environment, the marketplace is ill-equipped to efficiently absorb more investment capital and perform its core function of serving as an efficient tool for businesses hedging physical grain purchases, particularly when virtually all of that investment capital is long-only and a large share of open interest essentially is 'not for sale' for long periods of time," the NGFA's statement said.
NGFA last year alerted the CFTC and the Chicago Board of Trade, a CME Group (CME.N: Quote, Profile, Research) subsidiary, that the decades-old system of futures hedging was showing serious strains. Lack of "convergence" -- where futures and cash prices come together as futures contracts expire -- is still a major problem, it said.
Until that economic mechanism is addressed, "we believe it is inappropriate to establish a direct, new route to the marketplace for more investment capital which could exacerbate current problems," the NGFA statement said.
Fund money flowing into commodities like oil, gold and grains and away from Wall Street stocks and bonds was strong in 2007 and shows no signs of abating. Wheat and soybean futures have hit all-time highs this year, with corn at 11-year highs.
CFTC's latest Commitment of Traders report for the week ended Jan. 29 showed that "Index Traders" holding "long" positions made up 36 percent of total open interest in CBOT wheat contracts, 21 percent of CBOT corn open interest and 24 percent of CBOT soybean open interest.
NGFA also asked CFTC to take a closer look at investment fund activity in financing over-the-counter contracts like swaps that were becoming more common for grain handlers looking for alternatives to traditional futures hedging.
NGFA asked CFTC for detailed trading information on "index or pension funds, or swaps dealers hedging over-the-counter transactions with such funds." (Reporting by Peter Bohan, editing by Matthew Lewis)
U.S. grain handlers urge CFTC go slow on fund rules
Tue Feb 5, 2008
CHICAGO, Feb 5 (Reuters) - The largest U.S. grain industry organization on Tuesday asked government regulators to reject proposals that would allow big Wall Street investment funds larger and more active positions in grain futures markets.
The National Grain and Feed Association (NGFA) said it told the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) it opposed a CFTC proposal to establish a new "risk-management exemption" on the size of speculative positions that index and pension fund traders can control in grain futures or options contracts.
NGFA -- which groups 900 grain processors and exporters operating about 6,000 facilities -- in recent months has spread alarms about the financial squeeze its members are in due to unprecedented rallies in grain prices.
NGFA has blamed a huge influx of investment money from Wall Street investors for part of the price gains, which have created huge strains on grain owners to pay higher and higher "margin calls" to finance bank-mandated "hedges" in futures.
"Such traditional hedgers have seen a dramatic increase in recent months in the amount of money needed to finance margin requirements on outstanding futures contracts," NGFA said in a statement.
"In this environment, the marketplace is ill-equipped to efficiently absorb more investment capital and perform its core function of serving as an efficient tool for businesses hedging physical grain purchases, particularly when virtually all of that investment capital is long-only and a large share of open interest essentially is 'not for sale' for long periods of time," the NGFA's statement said.
NGFA last year alerted the CFTC and the Chicago Board of Trade, a CME Group (CME.N: Quote, Profile, Research) subsidiary, that the decades-old system of futures hedging was showing serious strains. Lack of "convergence" -- where futures and cash prices come together as futures contracts expire -- is still a major problem, it said.
Until that economic mechanism is addressed, "we believe it is inappropriate to establish a direct, new route to the marketplace for more investment capital which could exacerbate current problems," the NGFA statement said.
Fund money flowing into commodities like oil, gold and grains and away from Wall Street stocks and bonds was strong in 2007 and shows no signs of abating. Wheat and soybean futures have hit all-time highs this year, with corn at 11-year highs.
CFTC's latest Commitment of Traders report for the week ended Jan. 29 showed that "Index Traders" holding "long" positions made up 36 percent of total open interest in CBOT wheat contracts, 21 percent of CBOT corn open interest and 24 percent of CBOT soybean open interest.
NGFA also asked CFTC to take a closer look at investment fund activity in financing over-the-counter contracts like swaps that were becoming more common for grain handlers looking for alternatives to traditional futures hedging.
NGFA asked CFTC for detailed trading information on "index or pension funds, or swaps dealers hedging over-the-counter transactions with such funds." (Reporting by Peter Bohan, editing by Matthew Lewis)