Obbligazioni societarie GM, Ford, Chrysler: il 3D dell'automotive USA (2 lettori)

frankiemachine

Mr. Tentenna
ti prego paolo....non me ne volere......non so perchè, ma ti immagino (fisicamente) come Andrew Mickey

assolutamente senza offesa

PS tra l'altro non so nemmeno quanti anni hai quindi potrei immaginarmi un 35enne quando magari in realtà ne hai 55 :D
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
in effetti mi pareva strano...troppo buono

sai qual'è il problema? che a GM non leggono il fol! :D

tu forse non c'eri quando una domenica ho proposto di prefatturare la Volt a chi aveva detto di essere interessato a valutane l'acquisto su un sito, con due anni di anticipo sulla consegna e dando delle opzioni per l'acquisto di azioni GM come premio: shark ci aveva creduto... :lol: - mitico, insieme alla finta P/R di Mark creduta da Shark... adesso però basta o veniamo sbattuti nel cazzeggio... :D
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
ti prego paolo....non me ne volere......non so perchè, ma ti immagino (fisicamente) come Andrew Mickey

assolutamente senza offesa

PS tra l'altro non so nemmeno quanti anni hai quindi potrei immaginarmi un 35enne quando magari in realtà ne hai 55 :D

ci mancava solo che mettevo la foto su Seeking Alpha e poi sai le prese per i fondelli che si sentivano sul forum... :D :lol:
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
General Motors: The Biggest Credit Risk of All Time?

Posted by Heidi N. Moore
General Motors owes $76 billion. If the auto maker makes a conventional bankruptcy filing, it will have to borrow another $103 billion from the cash-strapped U.S. government and a syndicate of as many as 70 struggling lenders.
Is this the biggest credit risk of all time?
It is a truism in the world of bankruptcy that, no matter how risky the loan, nearly every company has always paid back the money that carried it through the bankruptcy process. (The one exception is Winstar Communications).
But a bankruptcy filing from GM would the largest ever. The company’s recovery plan, submitted to the U.S. government last week, estimates that a two-year bankruptcy reorganization, including asset sales and a cleaned-up balance sheet, would cost $86 billion in government financing and up to another $17 billion from already-troubled banks and lenders.
Lenders–and the U.S.–are wary that they won’t get paid back. Their fears have good reason. Any good loan is based on the security of the collateral, and GM’s collateral base is eroding.
The auto maker has been struggling with disappointing financial results going back nearly five years. including a $10.6 billion one in 2005, a recordloss of $38.7 billion in 2007, and it was on track for an even worse 2008, after posting $3.3 billion, $15.5 billion and $4.2 billion of losses in the first three quarters of the year.
And the balance sheet isn’t even GM’s biggest problem. While high costs caused it to burn through $6.9 billion of cash in the third quarter alone, GM has deeper operational problems to resolve. For too long it has depended on sport-utility vehicles, trucks and other gas-guzzlers, missing or ignoring a host of signals about the necessity for fuel-efficient vehicles. Standard & Poor’s quantified GM’s dipping market share in a report last week: “Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn and SAAB models accounted for 18.5% of total new U.S. car registrations (including imports) in 2008, versus 19.4% in 2007, 20.7% in 2006 and 22.6% in 2005.
Comparable figures for Chevrolet, GMC, Pontiac and Oldsmobile trucks were 26.6%, 27.6%, 27.1% and 28.5% in the respective years.”
It is a lot to ask of troubled U.S. banks that they lend to a company in such terrible shape. Consider that last week Roche Holding–which has a stellar investment-grade credit rating–raised $16 billion from investors through the sale of bonds specifically because it would have been too difficult to ask banks to provide the cash. The U.S. government has pledged more than $1 trillion of support to the U.S. banking system in order to free up credit, and even so rumors of bank nationalizations are swirling. For the government to ask that same banking industry to take on a highly questionable credit like GM would be like tying two stones together to see if they float.
Then there there is the capacity in the credit markets. Buyers of corporate debt have outdone themselves in the past two months, snapping up parts of a $22.5 billion bridge loan to Pfizer and that $16 billion from Roche to help finance its proposed purchase of the 44% of Genentech it doesn’t already one. And bank lending has been on the rise since December, according to new numbers from the U.S. Treasury. But if GM debt is forced on the system, will that credit thaw continue? It is a question the U.S. government might want to consider?

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2009/02/...biggest-credit-risk-of-all-time/?mod=yahoo_hs
 

lorenzo63

Age quod Agis
da Seeking Alpha, se non sbaglio, nella mia immensa bontà non lo avevo postato... :D

devo dire che mi spiace per chi soffre per il proprio investimento, ma c'è da ridere per il modo in cui ogni notizia viene girata in positivo da alcuni... ho anche ricevuto un bollino verde sul FOL per la mia idea di ristrutturazione rifilando i bond 2033 agli operai... :lol:

..Sai come si dice...un bollino verde nn si rifiuta a nessuno.:lol::lol: :up: ..pensa che qualche sprovveduto lo ha dato anche a me...:D:D:D
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
WASHINGTON, Feb 24 (Reuters) - An Obama administration task force is carefully analyzing restructuring plans of General Motors Corp (GM.N) and Chrysler LLC [CBS.UL], but bankruptcy is not the panel's goal, a U.S. senator said on Tuesday.
Democrat Carl Levin of Michigan met with task force members this week on the turnaround plans submitted by GM and Chrysler that include a request for $22 billion more in bailout money.
Levin told reporters that the task force, led by White House and Treasury Department officials, is not excluding options, but bankruptcy "is not their goal."
Separately, Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow, also of Michigan, said the task force is in a "fact-finding mode" and the review is methodical. Stabenow said auto suppliers, also hoping for aid, had a "very good meeting" this week with the task force. (Reporting by John Crawley and Jeremy Pelofsky; editing by Jeffrey Benkoe)

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINWBT01071820090224?rpc=44
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
NYSE considers relaxing its one-dollar rule

NYSE considers relaxing rule that requires listed companies' shares to trade above $1 NEW YORK (AP) -- With many major companies trading in penny-stock territory, the New York Stock Exchange is considering relaxing a rule that requires shares to trade above a dollar."That's something that we're considering, given the market environment," said NYSE Euronext spokesman Raymond Pellechia. Currently, to remain listed on the NYSE, a company's shares cannot remain below $1 over 30 consecutive days.


http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090224/nyse_one_dollar_rule.html?.v=2
 

'O mariuolo

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Sono rientrato poco fa, qualcuno sa dirmi cosa è successo??
 

Imark

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Sono rientrato poco fa, qualcuno sa dirmi cosa è successo??

Rimbalzone tecnico delle borse USA su doppio minimo.... ;) hanno rifiatato i titoli azionari più in ipervenduto. Roba buona per i traders, ma di modesta utilità per gli obbligazionisti... :)
 

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