Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 2 (62 lettori)

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russiabond

Il mito, la leggenda.
Se Groupama 751 và sui 35 lettera ci faccio un pensierino ...

praticamente è come se la sbudellata grecia non fosse mai successa e mi ritrovo p.m.c. a 68/100 della 751 prezzi di luglio dell'anno scorso ...sarà una maniera "strana o inusuale " per sopportare le perdite ma preferisco avere come idea e come forma psicologica di affrontare 235k € di minus ...quella di essere entrato all in in Groupama 751 a 70/100 che continuare a mediare con l'EFSF ... la grecia nuova immondizia ...o avventurarmi in altri all in OTE per esempio dal dubbio futuro ....Groupama mi rilassa ....anche perchè CUM

comunque faccio sempre in tempo a cambiare idea ...:D
 

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amorgos34

CHIAGNI & FOTTI SRL
azz... questo non lo sapevo mica



Non vorrei però che fosse frainteso; il mio comunicato non parla di LTRO2









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fabriziof

Forumer storico
Io le ho comprate oggi.
Posso capire che il declassamento di UCG sfavorisce sopratutto i subordinati, ma rimanere senza denaro sul book fa impressione :eek:
COme ti spieghi una discesa del genere considerando che questo titolo è papabile call per via della step-up e che dovrebbe essere in mano sopratutto al retail?
la stranezza è che scende più la 2017 che prezza come la 2018 quando invece era sempre sopra di 1 punto e mezzo.posso ipotizzare che molti come me si siano accorti di averne troppe e che abbiano ritenuto che a breve non c'è aria che prendano il volo
 

zeta59

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chiesto un prezzo per la UBI 394 : non ci sono controparti
anche questa in certi momenti diventa illiquida , almeno ieri c'era un misero 73 !
 

discipline

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Sui rumors il parere di Zero Hedge:

Rumor Time: Stocks, EUR Surge On Renewed LTRO 3 Speculation

Now that we have entered the summer phase of 2012 it is time to recall how the summer of 2011 ran: in a nutshell - unsubstantiated rumor emerges usually one involving central banks being "generous", sending stocks higher, rumor is then denied a few hours later, but the ramp persists. Sure enough, it has begun anew (because 2012 is 2011). Minutes ago we got the first such instance, where a European "think tank" came up with the brilliant conclusion that any minute now the ECB will be dragged back into the fray, announcing either LTRO 3 (because it will be different this time), or after 9 weeks of inactivity, the ECB's SMP program will resume buying plunging peripheral bonds. Any factual basis to this? Of course not. But once the algos pick up the headline and create buying momentum for the sake of buying momentum, it is all uphill from there. So just as the market was on the verge of turning red for the day, the "think tank" appeared. Prepare for many more such short covering instances, because there really is nothing else left in the status quo arsenal.

What follows next? Why summits of course... And lots and lots of hope that the Eurocrats are in control of a sinking ship.


Piccola nota: non credo che nessuno stia operando.. postare le quotazioni sarebbe cosa molto gradita..
 
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TheLondoner

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oggi ha proseguito la sua discesa anche il callable generali 2022 del tlx....era da bel po' che non scambiava sotto 99
 
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fabriziof

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sulle banche inglesi

The UK has few direct exposures to Greece. However, if Greece defaults on its debt, and perhaps leaves the eurozone, the UK would still stand to suffer indirectly from the fallout.
The UK’s most direct links with the eurozone are through trade, and a Greek default/exit would almost certainly have adverse effects on the Greek economy in the near-term. But Greece is the destination for only 0.5 per cent of the UK’s exports. Indeed, UK exports to Greece have already fallen heavily – exported goods values dropped by 12.5 per cent last year (and are about half their level at the start of 2009). But this did not stop overall exported goods values to the EU from rising by 12 per cent last year.
UK banks’ direct exposures to Greece are also small. Holdings of Greek government debt are just $1.8 billion (£1.1 billion) or so, equivalent to about 0.5 per cent of UK banks’ tier 1 capital and less than 0.1 per cent of UK GDP. Exposures to Greek banks are even smaller at $1 billion (£0.6 billion), while even exposures to the Greek private sector are a relatively small $8 billion (£5 billion).
However, UK banks have large indirect exposures to Greece, particularly via their exposures to French banks. French banks have exposures to Greece of $40 billion (£25 billion), over four times that of UK banks and equivalent to 1.5 per cent of French GDP. And UK banks have lent some $100 billion (£63 billion) to French banks, equivalent to almost a third of their tier 1 capital. Accordingly, concerns about these exposures could put further upward pressure on banks’ funding costs and hence borrowing rates for firms and households. New mortgage rates in the UK rose further last month.
What’s more, a Greek default would no doubt have adverse effects on business confidence and consumer confidence. Although uncertainty about Greece’s future would finally be resolved, fears of contagion would prolong any uncertainty about the long-term future of the rest of the eurozone.
Indeed, the UK has obviously suffered alongside global stock markets in the past few days. Although it remains above the levels seen last autumn, the FTSE 100 is now almost 500 points or 8 per cent below the near-6000 level it reached in March. The resulting dent to financial wealth obviously doesn’t aid the prospects for consumer spending.
Meanwhile, the UK’s exposures to other troubled peripheral eurozone economies are far bigger than those to Greece. So perhaps the biggest concern of a Greek exit is the contagion that could result for other countries like Spain or Italy. UK banks have been scaling back their exposures to the eurozone, with exposures to Spain and Italy at the end of last year half their level in 2007. Nonetheless, UK bank lending
to Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Italy and Spain still amounted to some $300 billion (£188 billion).
At least the UK is still being seen as a safe haven from the troubles in the eurozone, rather than part of them. We expect this to continue, helping to keep down UK government borrowing costs. However, the downside of this safe-haven status and any consequent further rise in the pound is of course a further reduction in UK exporters’ competitiveness.
 

MRPINK

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Tieni presente che è un emissione abbastanza importante più di 1 bilion € e sul book non si vede un market maker degno di questo nome... quindi un semplice scarico non troppo importante spazza il book...
aggiungi lo scostamento del 2% max dei prezzi sul ETlX e ottieni un bel book senza bid...

Comunque nulla di allarmante... call o non call nei pressi di dicembre i prezzi saranno superiori ai 90, poi se uno se la vuole giocare fino in fondo...

Oggi mercato Otc congelato ! Film già visto negli ultimi tempi i dealer scappano se vuoi vendere.... Torno alle mie senior su tlx e fra un po' ai tds Italia sotto 100 in attesa di tempi migliori. Certo che l' Otc mi sta sempre più sulle bolas....
 
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