Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 2

[amorgos34]

52 non piu'operativo (c'era ma non rispondeva piu'probabile sia stato mazzuolato un po'troppo )

Confermo

 

[apaci2]

switch tra Talanx 2042 e Delta?

che si dice della
?

Ho già provato a chiedere ai più informati...

Da parte mia ho visto i risultati ultimo semestre:
gestione operativa in positivo (ci mancherebbe che fossero in negativo)
risultato complessivo perdita di 942M euro (vado a memoria)

Se hai tempo per informarti, posta
Grazie

Link da cui accedere ai risultati primo semestre 2012:
http://www.deltalloydgroep.com/en/p...ent-performance-in-turbulent-markets-1631294/

 

[Dupondius]

Ho già provato a chiedere ai più informati...

Da parte mia ho visto i risultati ultimo semestre:
gestione operativa in positivo (ci mancherebbe che fossero in negativo)
risultato complessivo perdita di 942M euro (vado a memoria)

Se hai tempo per informarti, posta
Grazie

Link da cui accedere ai risultati primo semestre 2012:
http://www.deltalloydgroep.com/en/p...ent-performance-in-turbulent-markets-1631294/

e io sollecitavo i più informati, quelli che rappresentano la memoria storica

a chi ha venduto Aviva?

 

[apaci2]

e io sollecitavo i più informati, quelli che rappresentano la memoria storica

a chi ha venduto Aviva?

Bisognerebbe capire esattamente cosa indica questa voce che ha generato la perdita, giusto per curiosità:

Change in insurance liabilities 3,606.5

Guardando sembrerebbero essere le riserve

Servirebbe CAT...

P.S.
Aviva successful placement of a
further 22% of Delta Lloyd shares now brings our free float to 80%. This demonstrates the market
confidence in Delta Lloyd

On 6 July 2012, Aviva stake in Delta Lloyd fell to just below 20% of the issued ordinary share capital
following the sale of over 37 million ordinary shares to various institutional investors...

 

[fidw99]

lloyds xs0406095637 7,875%

qualcuno sa se questo titolo tratta con rateo ?

grazie

 

[capt.harlock]

Bisognerebbe capire esattamente cosa indica questa voce che ha generato la perdita, giusto per curiosità:

Change in insurance liabilities 3,606.5

Guardando sembrerebbero essere le riserve

Servirebbe CAT...

P.S.
Aviva successful placement of a
further 22% of Delta Lloyd shares now brings our free float to 80%. This demonstrates the market
confidence in Delta Lloyd

On 6 July 2012, Aviva stake in Delta Lloyd fell to just below 20% of the issued ordinary share capital
following the sale of over 37 million ordinary shares to various institutional investors...

non so se potra'rispondere a breve
so che si e'ritirato per una quindicina di giorni in luogo ameno a scrivere poesie.....

 

[discipline]

Un post nella discussione HY m'ha fatto ricordare le Nibc 512 USD che ho a dormire in un angolo del ptf. Di una settimana fa i risultati H1 2012, c'è ancora qualcuno che segue lo stato di salute e le prospettive dell'emittente?
NIBC posts net profit of EUR 58 million in H1 2012

08-22-12

• NIBC Holding H1 2012 net profit of EUR 58 million, an increase compared to H1 2011 (EUR 56 million) and H2 2011 (EUR 30 million)
• NIBC Bank H1 2012 net profit of EUR 30 million, a decrease compared to H1 2011 (EUR 43 million) and increase compared to H2 2011 (EUR 25 million)
• The higher net profit in H1 2012 of NIBC Holding compared to NIBC Bank is driven by realised profits on sales of non-core assets
• Strong liquidity and solid capital position; NIBC Holding to pay an interim dividend of EUR 18 million over H1 2012

Jeroen Drost, Chief Executive Officer of NIBC
"Despite the challenging macroeconomic market environment, NIBC continued to grow its corporate loan portfolio and delivered a solid performance in the first half of 2012. Corporate Banking closed good advisory, financing and investment transactions across all sectors and disciplines, while Consumer Banking grew retail savings by 23% and expanded NIBC Direct into a third country, Belgium.
We made progress on our strategic priorities: client focus; sustainable profitability; and strong liquidity and solvency, which is reflected by our decision to channel income from our activities into maintaining a robust cash position and repaying the remaining government-guaranteed funding. We have integrated all our business banking activities into one client-focused group of sector specialists and modified our organisational structure around our two main activities, Corporate Banking and Consumer Banking. We diversified our funding by issuing a EUR 300 million senior unsecured bond and expanding NIBC Direct. Furthermore, we repaid EUR 1.5 billion of government guaranteed bonds and bought back EUR 250 million of the outstanding government-backed debt securities. Our liquidity remained strong and our capital position solid, while we were able to bring operating expenses down by 12% compared to H1 2011.
Although we expect conditions to remain difficult in the second half of 2012, we are confident that we will continue to be a robust and reliable banking partner for our clients."

Read the full press release

 

[lagonzaga]

Su Mps/Ant secondo me pagherà anche il prox anno per la semplice ragione che la Fondazione ne ha in portafoglio un bel pò ed ora come ora l'unica entrata, non essendoci dividendi, sono le cedole.
Tanto più che non si tratterebbe di grossi esborsi, così ad occhio saranno intorno ai 400 (tra Ant e Mps) che ad un tasso del 7% fanno grosso modo 28 mil circa......non mi sembra una somma impossibile....Leggendo il decreto che istituisce i nuovi bond statali viene detto che in caso di non pagamento degli interessi, questi vengono corrisposti in azioni, viene fatto divieto di corrispondere bonus agli amministratori e dirigenti ma sul pagamento delle cedole sui subordinati mi sembra che non ne faccia menzione di divieto-

 

[fabriziof]

Un post nella discussione HY m'ha fatto ricordare le Nibc 512 USD che ho a dormire in un angolo del ptf. Di una settimana fa i risultati H1 2012, c'è ancora qualcuno che segue lo stato di salute e le prospettive dell'emittente?
NIBC posts net profit of EUR 58 million in H1 2012

08-22-12

• NIBC Holding H1 2012 net profit of EUR 58 million, an increase compared to H1 2011 (EUR 56 million) and H2 2011 (EUR 30 million)
• NIBC Bank H1 2012 net profit of EUR 30 million, a decrease compared to H1 2011 (EUR 43 million) and increase compared to H2 2011 (EUR 25 million)
• The higher net profit in H1 2012 of NIBC Holding compared to NIBC Bank is driven by realised profits on sales of non-core assets
• Strong liquidity and solid capital position; NIBC Holding to pay an interim dividend of EUR 18 million over H1 2012

Jeroen Drost, Chief Executive Officer of NIBC
"Despite the challenging macroeconomic market environment, NIBC continued to grow its corporate loan portfolio and delivered a solid performance in the first half of 2012. Corporate Banking closed good advisory, financing and investment transactions across all sectors and disciplines, while Consumer Banking grew retail savings by 23% and expanded NIBC Direct into a third country, Belgium.
We made progress on our strategic priorities: client focus; sustainable profitability; and strong liquidity and solvency, which is reflected by our decision to channel income from our activities into maintaining a robust cash position and repaying the remaining government-guaranteed funding. We have integrated all our business banking activities into one client-focused group of sector specialists and modified our organisational structure around our two main activities, Corporate Banking and Consumer Banking. We diversified our funding by issuing a EUR 300 million senior unsecured bond and expanding NIBC Direct. Furthermore, we repaid EUR 1.5 billion of government guaranteed bonds and bought back EUR 250 million of the outstanding government-backed debt securities. Our liquidity remained strong and our capital position solid, while we were able to bring operating expenses down by 12% compared to H1 2011.
Although we expect conditions to remain difficult in the second half of 2012, we are confident that we will continue to be a robust and reliable banking partner for our clients."

Read the full press release

io ho un pochino della lt2 XS0210781828 ultimo prezzo su en 56,5.poi ricordiamoci che sono pigs free

 

[fabrifede]

Ho smesso anchio di seguire l'emittente. Non avevo neanche letto i risultati, peró finchè fanno utili....

Le ho anchio nel cassetto piene di polvere, sono 3 mesi che provo a venderle con iw, ma morgan stanley ha il denaro inchiodato a 67,5 ma non risponde mai (unica loro controparte su 3 o 4 presenti, ieri mi sono fatto mandare la Allq di bbg da un amico).
Sbagliando si impara, mai incapponirsi su un titolo, quando fai fatica a comprare un motivo c'è, la scarsa liquidità.

Intanto faccio maturare la cedolona

Un post nella discussione HY m'ha fatto ricordare le Nibc 512 USD che ho a dormire in un angolo del ptf. Di una settimana fa i risultati H1 2012, c'è ancora qualcuno che segue lo stato di salute e le prospettive dell'emittente?
NIBC posts net profit of EUR 58 million in H1 2012

08-22-12

• NIBC Holding H1 2012 net profit of EUR 58 million, an increase compared to H1 2011 (EUR 56 million) and H2 2011 (EUR 30 million)
• NIBC Bank H1 2012 net profit of EUR 30 million, a decrease compared to H1 2011 (EUR 43 million) and increase compared to H2 2011 (EUR 25 million)
• The higher net profit in H1 2012 of NIBC Holding compared to NIBC Bank is driven by realised profits on sales of non-core assets
• Strong liquidity and solid capital position; NIBC Holding to pay an interim dividend of EUR 18 million over H1 2012

Jeroen Drost, Chief Executive Officer of NIBC
"Despite the challenging macroeconomic market environment, NIBC continued to grow its corporate loan portfolio and delivered a solid performance in the first half of 2012. Corporate Banking closed good advisory, financing and investment transactions across all sectors and disciplines, while Consumer Banking grew retail savings by 23% and expanded NIBC Direct into a third country, Belgium.
We made progress on our strategic priorities: client focus; sustainable profitability; and strong liquidity and solvency, which is reflected by our decision to channel income from our activities into maintaining a robust cash position and repaying the remaining government-guaranteed funding. We have integrated all our business banking activities into one client-focused group of sector specialists and modified our organisational structure around our two main activities, Corporate Banking and Consumer Banking. We diversified our funding by issuing a EUR 300 million senior unsecured bond and expanding NIBC Direct. Furthermore, we repaid EUR 1.5 billion of government guaranteed bonds and bought back EUR 250 million of the outstanding government-backed debt securities. Our liquidity remained strong and our capital position solid, while we were able to bring operating expenses down by 12% compared to H1 2011.
Although we expect conditions to remain difficult in the second half of 2012, we are confident that we will continue to be a robust and reliable banking partner for our clients."

Read the full press release