Titoli di Stato area Euro GRECIA Operativo titoli di stato / 2 (6 lettori)

[Vespasianus]

Dal prospetto della nuova 2023 (condiviso da @archmax):


The Republic shall pay interest on the Principal Amount of each Note then outstanding from and including 30 January 2018 (the “First Interest Payment Date”) at the rate of 3.500 per cent. per annum payable annually in arrear on 30 January of each year (each such date an “Interest Payment Date”) calculated on the basis of actual number of days from and including the prior Interest Payment Date (or, in respect of the First Interest Payment Date, [●] (the “Issue Date”)) to but excluding the following Interest Payment Date.


Quindi dovrebbero pagare anche il 30 gennaio p.v.
Se qualcuno la legge diversamente, mi corregga.

 

[Kim]

In the event that capital gains realised from the disposal of the Benchmark Notes are received by individuals having their tax residence in a foreign (non-Greek) country having entered a treaty for the avoidance of double taxation (DTT) with Greece, any gains from the disposal of the Benchmark Notes shall be exempted from the 15 per cent. income tax subject to the production of the documentation evidencing the tax residence. Pursuant to Greek Ministry of Finance guidelines no. 1032/26.1.2015, if the capital gains realised from the disposal of the Benchmark Notes are received by individuals having their tax residence in a foreign (nonGreek) territory which is treated as a “noncooperative” jurisdiction or state, the tax which is chargeable on the gain is payable before the transfer of the Benchmark Notes via the filing of a special tax return; however, the procedure and the details for such filing have not been determined yet.

da pag. 26 dell'Invitation Memorandum.
Questa cosa riguarda noi?

 

[vitoandolini]

Io sono scettico sul fatto che rimangano stessi ISIN, cambia struttura tassi ecc, quindi se non arrivano altre info io propendo per il fatto che gli isin cambino.
Sempre a titolo personale se la banca non mi da un documento scritto in italiano non firmo e nemmeno dico si nell'intervista telefonica.

 

[GLADIATOR100]

In the event that capital gains realised from the disposal of the Benchmark Notes are received by individuals having their tax residence in a foreign (non-Greek) country having entered a treaty for the avoidance of double taxation (DTT) with Greece, any gains from the disposal of the Benchmark Notes shall be exempted from the 15 per cent. income tax subject to the production of the documentation evidencing the tax residence. Pursuant to Greek Ministry of Finance guidelines no. 1032/26.1.2015, if the capital gains realised from the disposal of the Benchmark Notes are received by individuals having their tax residence in a foreign (nonGreek) territory which is treated as a “noncooperative” jurisdiction or state, the tax which is chargeable on the gain is payable before the transfer of the Benchmark Notes via the filing of a special tax return; however, the procedure and the details for such filing have not been determined yet.

da pag. 26 dell'Invitation Memorandum.
Questa cosa riguarda noi?

Direi di si, e direi che la convenzione c'è (vedi allegato)

 

[archmax]

Dal prospetto della nuova 2023 (condiviso da @archmax):


The Republic shall pay interest on the Principal Amount of each Note then outstanding from and including 30 January 2018 (the “First Interest Payment Date”) at the rate of 3.500 per cent. per annum payable annually in arrear on 30 January of each year (each such date an “Interest Payment Date”) calculated on the basis of actual number of days from and including the prior Interest Payment Date (or, in respect of the First Interest Payment Date, [●] (the “Issue Date”)) to but excluding the following Interest Payment Date.


Quindi dovrebbero pagare anche il 30 gennaio p.v.
Se qualcuno la legge diversamente, mi corregga.

... iniziano a pagare gli interessi dal 30 gennaio 2018 incluso

per quelli vecchi invece

"Cash Payment
An amount in cash (rounded to the nearest €0.01, with half a cent rounded upwards) equal to the interest accrued and unpaid on the Designated Securities from 24 February 2017 to (but excluding) the Settlement Date on the Designated Securities validly offered by a Bondholder and accepted by the Republic for exchange pursuant to the Invitation."


Settlement
The expected Settlement Date.
The Republic reserves the right to announce an earlier or later date to settle the Invitation with respect to any one or more series of Designated Securities.
Tuesday, 5 December 2017

 

[neosephiroth86]

Cmq forse non attivano le CAC per via del fatto che non riguarda persone residenti in molti stati ( tipo Usa, francia). Se sono francese con titoli greci e non posso aderire allo scambio che senso ha attivare le CAC x tutti?

 

[Bzt]

Dal sito Fineco: "L'isin dei titoli rivenienti non è stato comunicato."

 

[cariatide]

Mi sembra un'operazione fatta e gestita coi piedi.
Non mi inkiappetteranno le plusvalenze come regalino di Natale !!

 

[Vespasianus]

In the event that capital gains realised from the disposal of the Benchmark Notes are received by individuals having their tax residence in a foreign (non-Greek) country having entered a treaty for the avoidance of double taxation (DTT) with Greece, any gains from the disposal of the Benchmark Notes shall be exempted from the 15 per cent. income tax subject to the production of the documentation evidencing the tax residence.

...

Questa cosa riguarda noi?

Dice solo che i non-residenti non pagano la tassa greca del 15%. A noi interessa sapere se dobbiamo pagare quella italiana del 12,5.

 

[tommy271]

Mi sembra un'operazione fatta e gestita coi piedi.
Non mi inkiappetteranno le plusvalenze come regalino di Natale !!

L'operazione è gestita dallo stato greco, sotto osservanza ESM e BCE.
La plusvalenza è un problema nazionale, nel nostro caso italiano... Atene non c'entra nulla.

Infatti, in Grecia, le plusvalenze sullo swap non verranno tassate.