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Lo si è detto per l'Irlanda ed è finita col cappello in mano davanti alla Troika.
Lo si è detto per il Portogallo e ha fatto la stessa fine.
Ora tocca a noi.
Oggi abbiamo toccato il record assoluto di spread col btp a oltre 400 pb.
E sfioriamo il 6% di yield.
Non è il record assoluto dello yield sopra il 6% sul decennale, a cui siamo giunti i primi di agosto, perchè nel frattempo il benchmark bund è finito a livelli infimi.
Ma lo spread oggi ha toccato il record.
I btp il mercato non li compra. Li vende. :rolleyes:

Comunque......che situazione :sad:

Mai visto na' roba del genere
 
CORRECTED-Spain's regions present extra deficit plans
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MADRID, Sept 22 (Reuters) -


Spain's over-spending regions have promised extra measures to meet tough 2011 deficit targets after overshooting in the first half of the year, the Economy Ministry said on Thursday.

The 17 autonomous regions account for around half of the Spanish budget.

There are fears they will knock the central government's budget deficit target of 6 percent this year off course just as Spain tries to convince investors it can manage its finances.

Regional governments have committed to their own fiscal target this year of 1.3 percent and targets through to 2014, the economy ministry said in a statement after talks with some regional officials.

On Sept. 8 the regions reported a deficit of 1.2 percent of gross domestic product in the first half of the year, though the government says the two figures are not comparable due to accounting differences. (news)
Twelve regions reported a deficit in the first half of more than 0.75 percent of gross domestic product. Officials from those regions have been talking with the government in the last two weeks to outline steps they would take to get back on track.

Data from the Bank of Spain last week showed debt levels in the regions rose by over 20 percent in the second quarter and Fitch has downgraded the ratings of five regions. (news) (news)
The economy ministry said Catalonia and Castilla La Mancha, two of the worst budget offenders, were taking action to minimize likely deviations in their deficit goals.

Spain's government has promised to take any action necessary to hit its central budget deficit target. A recent round of austerity measures, including cuts to public spending over pharmaceutical costs and tax hikes for high earners, should give the government more room to hit its target should the regions overshoot.
 
Comunque......che situazione :sad:

Mai visto na' roba del genere

Vabbe' cerchiamo di essere positivi.

Questo è l'indice comit e la parte cerchiata è all'epoca dello sgancio di lira e sterlina dallo sme e del prelievo di Amato sui cc.

Certo oggi la situazione internazionale è ancora più complessa e critica.
Tuttavia credo che dal rimbalzone si potranno fare soldi a palate quando la situazione si schiarirà.
Anche per questo sarebbe ancor più grave lasciarci la camicia sui bond Greci.
Le opportunità oggi non mancano.
Ma ancora non abbiamo toccato il fondo.

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FEATURE-Shopkeepers shutter shops as Greek crisis bites
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* Athens jeweller says govt "pushes us further to ground"
* Tens of thousands of small businesses close due to crisis
* Defining winter for many outlets

By Karolina Tagaris

ATHENS, Sept 22 (Reuters) -

His gaze fixed on the ground, an Athens jeweller harks back to the good old days, when the city flourished and people always wanted his handbeaten gold rings and ornate necklaces.

"Today no one came," said Themis Lizardos, 44. "This is true every day." Another shop in the now partly derelict building has been boarded shut.

Generations of merchants set up successful businesses in the "commercial triangle" of Athens, a stone's throw from the central Syntagma Square where bloody anti-austerity protests erupted just over two months ago.

Now the mood among shopkeepers in the once vibrant area, enclosed by the capital's three main squares, is sombre.

Tens of thousands of small businesses, which make up a big chunk of the Greek economy, have closed since the government secured a 110 billion euro ($150 billion) bailout package from international lenders in exchange for promises of painful austerity measures.

"There is no helping hand (from the government), there is only one hand, the one that presses on our heads and pushes us further to the ground," Lizardos said.

The walls of his shop are full of photographs from a time when staff worked into the night to keep up with demand for gold jewellery from Greeks, who have treasured it as part of their culture for centuries.

A gracious thank-you note accompanies one of worldwide Orthodox church leader Patriarch Bartholomew, an intricate gold pendant around his neck.

Today the workshop is run by four people, including Lizardos' cousin and uncle, who together with his father opened the business five decades ago.

Since then the shop has been the family's only source of income and the prospect of having to shut it down due to fallout from the Greek debt crisis keeps Lizardos awake at night.


"WHAT WILL I DO?"
Rising gold prices and high taxes have made it too expensive to run the workshop and he cannot afford to buy stock to keep the business running.

"If I close down my businesses what will I do now, at 44?" said Lizardos, echoing the plight of many small business owners throughout Greece.

His wife is half-American and the family is considering moving to the United States where he believes his teenage daughters will have a better future.

"When I got married I stayed for this reason, not to abandon what my father worked for all those years," he said.

"Our customers are not strangers, they are people you see in the market every day. The civil servant, the grocer, the electrician," Lizardos said.

"Some of them are priests, but even they have stopped buying. They don't want to provoke people by appearing to be extravagant," he told Reuters.

Violent street protests against tax rises and salary cuts have driven many Athenians from the city centre. A police bus is permanently on standby on the corner of Lizardos's street.

The austerity and the protests have cast a shadow over small businesses in the city with demonstrations alone costing them about four working hours a day, trade bodies said.

In the Athens area, more than 20 percent of shops have closed since 2010, according to the ESEE retail federation.


SHOPS FACE SHUTTERED WINTER
Closing down or declaring bankruptcy is not easy, so many businesses simply pull down their shutters and debts start to pile up, according to ESEE.

"It will be a defining winter for small businesses. Many will not make it into the next year," said ESEE chairman Vassilis Korkidis, estimating by the end of 2011, they will be closing down at a rate of one in three, from one in four now.

Business owners in the area have started staffing their shops themselves, often with the help of their spouse or children. Usually employing fewer than 10 people, most of the country's small businesses are family owned.

"How can you fire your brother, your cousin, your family?" said 53-year-old Nikos Apostolakis, who runs a textile shop opened by his father in the 1970s on the same street as Lizardos. "Even if I cut their wages to half it wouldn't help."

More than 68,000 small businesses have shut down so far this year, according to ESEE. It expects about 53,000 to close down in the next six months.

"The latest measures have created an atmosphere of fear, that tomorrow people will not have enough money to eat," said Korkidis. "They should impose taxes that businesses will be able to cope with in the current climate."

Greece adopted yet more austerity measures on Wednesday to secure a bailout installment crucial to avoid running out of money next month.

"Regardless of what happens with the latest aid tranche there is going to be a lot of concern amongst households and businesses that in three months time there may need to be a new barrage of fiscal measures," said Ben May, a London-based analyst at Capital Economics.

Against the backdrop of a contracting economy, people are less inclined to buy to stimulate the economy and there will also be a reluctance to invest, he said.

Lizardos is worried Greece will lose a crucial part of the economy and will become a nation of big corporations. "Slowly we are all going to close down and we will work in factories for the big guys, for a 500 euro (monthly) salary," he said.

"Inside me I want to believe that maybe something will change, maybe a miracle will happen, but I don't really believe it," Lizardos said. "I don't believe it. I wish for it, though."
 
penso una delle poche notizie positive delal giornata lo spread di nuovo in discesa quasi a 2000 punti...2054...nonostante i tassi tedeschi continuino a calare
 
Accorciato ancora le scadenze ...sto spostando tutto sul 2012 ...Marzo - Maggio ...un blocchetto di agosto ...

tot 674k ...

pomperanno ossigeno per mesi dopo lo swap .....

ma non voglio andare oltre il 2012 ...meglio i primi mesi ...

poi puo succedere di tutto ...il dopo swap sarà euforico penso ...se poi parte il buy back meglio ancora ...ma non voglio oltrepassare il 2012 ...provo a fermarmi a maggio 12 ...

mi ci vuole tempo ...il mercato assorbe poco alla volta ...
 
con questi profondi rossi
(non solo grecia)

mi accorgo di canticchiare la canzoncina che qualche "vecchio" come me ricorda:
"tu sei bello e ti tirano le pietre,
tu sei brutto e ti tirano le pietre,
QUALUNQUE COSA FAI,
DOVUNQUE TE NE ANDRAI,
tu sempre pietre in faccia prenderai"

TRANVATE, anche!
 
penso una delle poche notizie positive delal giornata lo spread di nuovo in discesa quasi a 2000 punti...2054...nonostante i tassi tedeschi continuino a calare

Non mi risulta :mmmm:
Dopo lo spike di prima mattina è sceso.
Ma da quando è giunto a valle dello spike non ha fatto altro che progressivamente risalire.
E il close di oggi è comunque più alto del close di ieri.

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