Baro
Umile contadino
Anch'io sono in pericolo, speriamo non mi buchino il tetto !!
Andrò a dormire in taverna sottoterra con il casco ahahaha!!
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Andrò a dormire in taverna sottoterra con il casco ahahaha!!
Baro
Umile contadino
Ciao Stock è sempre un piacere leggerti!!Occhio eh che pare caschi in Nord Italia...
E a giudicare dal fatto che questo 3d è pieno di "mangia polenta"....
Fate attenzione e mi raccomando, a casa in orario da coprifuoco.
Tu consideri mangiapolenta quelli a nord del Po ?
buttozzo
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andrea sant ciao mi ricordo ancora il venerdi' di maggio del 2010 quando ancora non si sapeva che avrebbero rilasciato la trance qualcuno di deuch banc avverti' i suoi amici di comprare grecia perche' gia' sapevano che avrebbero rilascato la trance e' hanno guadagnato parecchi soldi io per fortuna ho comprato quel venerdi guadagnandoci anche se ho in pancia ancora titoli con pmc altissimo cosi' si fanno i soldi qualcuno soffia sul fuoco facendo vendere su notizie catastrofiche altri comprano sapendo il contrario cosi' si fanno i soldi
ficodindia
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Stampa e media criminali!
Come si possono diffondere notizie fuorvianti del tipo: "il ministro delle finanze greco sta preparando piano che prevede il default della Grecia con un taglio del 50%". "La BCE, in nome di un suo membro, guarda caso olandese, non esclude la possibilità che la Grecia possa dichiarare default". E' criminale in questo momento alimentare la speculazione diffondento tali notizie. La realtà è una, la BCE, la Commissione europea, la stessa Merkel, escludono categoricamente il default della Grecia per le conseguenze catastrofiche che avrebbe sul sistema finanziario dell'eurozona in particolare e su quello globale in generale. Tra l'altro lo stesso ministro delle finanze greco ha smentito categoricamente tali voci, invitando i membri del PASOK a votare le proposte avanzate e concordate con la Troika per evitare proprio il fallimento.
Papandreou and Venizelos warned the deputies of the consequences of Greece not passing the latest austerity measures and therefore not qualifying for its next loan installment for the eurozone and the International Monetary Fund, which is 8 billion euros.
“There is no other way,” Papandreou reportedly told PASOK lawmakers. “The other path leads to bankruptcy, which will have major consequences for every household.
“We know it will be difficult but now is time for the most decisive battle of all.”
Venizelos suggested that despite a shrinking economy and rising unemployment, things would get worse if Greece defaulted. “Unfortunately, this is not the crisis,” he said. “This is a great effort that we are making to protect ourselves and avoid the crisis. Because the crisis will be like in Argentina in 2000. In other words, the total destruction of the economy, institutions, social fabric and of the country’s production base.”
International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde is reported to have described comparisons between Greece and Argentina as “unfortunate.”
ekathimerini.com | Measures divide PASOK
Come si possono diffondere notizie fuorvianti del tipo: "il ministro delle finanze greco sta preparando piano che prevede il default della Grecia con un taglio del 50%". "La BCE, in nome di un suo membro, guarda caso olandese, non esclude la possibilità che la Grecia possa dichiarare default". E' criminale in questo momento alimentare la speculazione diffondento tali notizie. La realtà è una, la BCE, la Commissione europea, la stessa Merkel, escludono categoricamente il default della Grecia per le conseguenze catastrofiche che avrebbe sul sistema finanziario dell'eurozona in particolare e su quello globale in generale. Tra l'altro lo stesso ministro delle finanze greco ha smentito categoricamente tali voci, invitando i membri del PASOK a votare le proposte avanzate e concordate con la Troika per evitare proprio il fallimento.
Papandreou and Venizelos warned the deputies of the consequences of Greece not passing the latest austerity measures and therefore not qualifying for its next loan installment for the eurozone and the International Monetary Fund, which is 8 billion euros.
“There is no other way,” Papandreou reportedly told PASOK lawmakers. “The other path leads to bankruptcy, which will have major consequences for every household.
“We know it will be difficult but now is time for the most decisive battle of all.”
Venizelos suggested that despite a shrinking economy and rising unemployment, things would get worse if Greece defaulted. “Unfortunately, this is not the crisis,” he said. “This is a great effort that we are making to protect ourselves and avoid the crisis. Because the crisis will be like in Argentina in 2000. In other words, the total destruction of the economy, institutions, social fabric and of the country’s production base.”
International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde is reported to have described comparisons between Greece and Argentina as “unfortunate.”
ekathimerini.com | Measures divide PASOK
tommy271
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Occhio eh che pare caschi in Nord Italia...
E a giudicare dal fatto che questo 3d è pieno di "mangia polenta"....
Fate attenzione e mi raccomando, a casa in orario da coprifuoco.
Le raccomandazioni sono di non stare in appartamenti situati agli ultimi piani.
Spero, in quanto GGbeista (già colpito da malasorte) di essere immune.
tommy271
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Credit Suisse: Greece Unlikely To Eject Without Ring-Fencing
“What if there were a disorderly break-up of the Euro-area?” asks Credit Suisse in an analysis regarding the future of the single currency bloc.
According to the Swiss bank, in such an event, peripheral currencies would fall by c50%, pushing net foreign liabilities to 200-250% of GDP for the periphery ex Italy, resulting in a 40% default on both sovereign and private loans.
Losses to core European banks would be around €300bn, €630bn to peripheral banks ex Italy and €150bn to the ECB, said Credit Suisse.
Peripheral European banks’ net foreign liabilities should rise by c€800bn. Historically, into disorderly defaults, GDP falls by 9% and NPLs rise to 22%.
A deposit freeze, strong DM (CS’s FX team sees a new DM rising by 40%) and a trade war would all be likely. EPS could fall by 40%, the S&P 500 could go to 750 and European banks could drop another 40%.
Core European exporters would suffer, while peripheral exporters would likely win. In dollar terms, local markets underperform post-de-pegging.
Credit Suisse thinks the chance of a general break-up of the Euro is just 10%.
“The cost of not bailing out the peripheral countries is higher than the cost of bailing them out; the cost to Greece of an exit is 10-20% of GDP; Italy/Spain are not at risk of a default, in our view; aggregate leverage, government deficits in the Euro-area are all lower than in the US or the UK; and government bond spreads are pricing in an overly aggressive haircut.
We think Greece is unlikely to be ejected from the Euro until the ring-fencing for the rest of the periphery has been set up. The biggest danger in our view would be for Italy to choose to leave the Euro.”
According to Credit Suisse, the underlying problem is the lack of competitiveness in the periphery, as much as debt. It still believes an 8% to 15% decline in wages might be needed to restore competitiveness in peripheral Europe.
The Swiss bank sees Eurobond as solution, but would take too long to set up, requiring constitutional reform and in some countries a referendum.
Another solution would be turning the EFSF into a bank and repoing bonds with the ECB (to increase its size 10 fold). But it would also require parliamentary approval and might violate the prohibition against ECB lending to EU institutions.
CS proposes also a silent solution: the ECB continues to buy/repo peripheral European debt (it already holds €140bn of peripheral European debt and repos €300bn).
According to Credit Swiss, the best solution is raising the EFSF to €900bn, with €400bn used for a TARP-like facility, c€300bn for a debt buyback at market prices and the remainder being put into an EFSF bank used to purchase peripheral bonds (leveraged through repos with the ECB).
Soft QE and a weaker Euro need to be part of the solution, the bank concluded.
(capital.gr)
“What if there were a disorderly break-up of the Euro-area?” asks Credit Suisse in an analysis regarding the future of the single currency bloc.
According to the Swiss bank, in such an event, peripheral currencies would fall by c50%, pushing net foreign liabilities to 200-250% of GDP for the periphery ex Italy, resulting in a 40% default on both sovereign and private loans.
Losses to core European banks would be around €300bn, €630bn to peripheral banks ex Italy and €150bn to the ECB, said Credit Suisse.
Peripheral European banks’ net foreign liabilities should rise by c€800bn. Historically, into disorderly defaults, GDP falls by 9% and NPLs rise to 22%.
A deposit freeze, strong DM (CS’s FX team sees a new DM rising by 40%) and a trade war would all be likely. EPS could fall by 40%, the S&P 500 could go to 750 and European banks could drop another 40%.
Core European exporters would suffer, while peripheral exporters would likely win. In dollar terms, local markets underperform post-de-pegging.
Credit Suisse thinks the chance of a general break-up of the Euro is just 10%.
“The cost of not bailing out the peripheral countries is higher than the cost of bailing them out; the cost to Greece of an exit is 10-20% of GDP; Italy/Spain are not at risk of a default, in our view; aggregate leverage, government deficits in the Euro-area are all lower than in the US or the UK; and government bond spreads are pricing in an overly aggressive haircut.
We think Greece is unlikely to be ejected from the Euro until the ring-fencing for the rest of the periphery has been set up. The biggest danger in our view would be for Italy to choose to leave the Euro.”
According to Credit Suisse, the underlying problem is the lack of competitiveness in the periphery, as much as debt. It still believes an 8% to 15% decline in wages might be needed to restore competitiveness in peripheral Europe.
The Swiss bank sees Eurobond as solution, but would take too long to set up, requiring constitutional reform and in some countries a referendum.
Another solution would be turning the EFSF into a bank and repoing bonds with the ECB (to increase its size 10 fold). But it would also require parliamentary approval and might violate the prohibition against ECB lending to EU institutions.
CS proposes also a silent solution: the ECB continues to buy/repo peripheral European debt (it already holds €140bn of peripheral European debt and repos €300bn).
According to Credit Swiss, the best solution is raising the EFSF to €900bn, with €400bn used for a TARP-like facility, c€300bn for a debt buyback at market prices and the remainder being put into an EFSF bank used to purchase peripheral bonds (leveraged through repos with the ECB).
Soft QE and a weaker Euro need to be part of the solution, the bank concluded.
(capital.gr)
robinson
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Occhio eh che pare caschi in Nord Italia...
E a giudicare dal fatto che questo 3d è pieno di "mangia polenta"....
Fate attenzione e mi raccomando, a casa in orario da coprifuoco.
beh, allora domattina per prima cosa facciamo subito l' appello....
robinson
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non solo stampa e media criminali!
il membro (nel senso di testa di ca.xo) olandese queste cose le ha dette o no? se le ha dette è criminale lui che diffonde queste notizie.
Ma alla BCE l' hanno già castigato: a quest' ora è dietro alla lavagna!
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