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Voestalpine 1.000 EUR AT0000A069T7 unrated 7,1250% A + T 1.000
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Zorba

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BA non ha ancora ricevuto gli aiuti di stato...

Austria seeks right to Bank Austria stake -sources

Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:30am EDT
By Boris Groendahl
VIENNA, Sept 11 (Reuters) - Austria is demanding the right to take a stake in UniCredit's (CRDI.MI) Bank Austria if it injects state capital into the Italian bank's Austrian arm, three sources close to the talks said.
The government has put a proposal to Bank Austria, the country's biggest bank and which also manages most UniCredit assets in emerging Europe, under which it would be able to swap the non-voting capital it would inject into common stock.
This swap, which would give the government only a minority stake, would be triggered in case the bank does not stick to commitments made in return for the state aid, the sources said.
"The right to swap (into voting stock) is an option that was put on the table by the government and that will be discussed next week," said one of the sources who, like the others, declined to be identified because the talks are confidential.
This source said the option was only meant to be an "emergency brake" and while the government did not want to become a Bank Austria shareholder it wanted to have a means to enforce the rules for the capital.
But as markets have warmed to bank capital raisings and the urgency to get state-backed cash is gradually disappearing, it could mean UniCredit, like Italian peer Intesa Sanpaolo (ISP.MI), could shun aid and seek other sources of capital.
Two other sources said the proposal had been made to Bank Austria and UniCredit in talks that have been going on informally for months but are now in a more concrete phase.
Bank Austria and UniCredit said talks with Austria were ongoing but declined to comment on detail. A finance ministry spokesman also declined to comment.
4 BLN EUROS FROM ITALY, AUSTRIA
UniCredit said in May it wanted to raise 4 billion euros
($5.8 billion) in state capital from Italy and Austria to bolster its capital as bad debt rose, particularly in emerging Europe where it is the biggest lender.
The Austrian share of the money -- expected to be half of the total -- would come as participation capital, a non-voting form of equity similar to preference shares and counting as core Tier 1 capital, equal to common stock. [nLR890108]
The Austrian finance ministry has said it would only inject the capital if UniCredit struck a similar deal in Italy and if it injected its own money into Bank Austria. [nWEA3094]
Bank Austria's peers Raiffeisen Zentralbank [RZB.UL] and Erste Group Bank (ERST.VI), also its closest rivals in emerging Europe, both got capital without a government option to swap it into voting stock.
For both of them, conditions included annual interest payments of 8 percent and commitments to boost lending to Austrian retail and corporate customers.
In Bank Austria's case, sources have previously said the government was also asking for assurances that Bank Austria does not cut jobs and it keeps management of eastern European assets in Vienna.
"The concern is that this is a foreign-owned bank which could pursue strategies that mean uncertainty for its Austrian business," the first source said.
But a second source said Bank Austria would insist on getting the same treatment as Raiffeisen and Erste.
Intesa Sanpaolo is seeking 4 billion euros in Italian state aid but its chief executive has said it could look for alternatives. The bank has earmarked about 10 billion euros in non-core assets for sale to boost capital. [nLA645963]
UniCredit's core Tier 1 capital level stood at 6.9 percent at the end of June, which some analysts said was a very thin cushion against the expected surge in bad debt in central and eastern Europe it and other banks face.
If it shunned the Austrian proposal, UniCredit would have to tap markets in some form to bolster this ratio.
"The alternative to receiving government capital would be to access the markets directly," Goldman Sachs said in a recent note. "To raise 4 billion euros ... UniCredit would need to issue 1,681 million new shares (10 percent of outstanding shares) at current prices."
 

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Dong 1.100 EUR XS0223249003 BBB-/Baa3 5,5000% A + T 1
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Bayer 1.300 EUR XS0225369403 BBB-/Baa2 5,0000% A + T 1.000
Voestalpine 1.000 EUR AT0000A069T7 unrated 7,1250% A + T 1.000
Michelin 500 EUR FR0010034298 BBB- 6,3750% A + T 1.000
Banca Lombarda (UBI) 155 EUR XS0108805564 BBB 8,1700% A + T 1.000

Banca Pop. Di Bergamo (UBI) 300 EUR XS0123998394 BBB 8,3640% A + T 1.000
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metti anche i prezzi di carico - le hai prese oggi?
 

Imark

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Moody's takes rating action on various subordinated securities of Lloyds an RBS

London, 09 September 2009 -- Moody's Investors Service today downgraded to Ba1 the junior subordinated debt (upper Tier 2) and to Ba2 the cumulative preference shares (innovative Tier 1) instruments of various entities within Lloyds Banking Group. The securities remain under review for further possible downgrade. At RBS and Nat West plc the Ba1-rated junior subordinated debt has been placed on review for possible downgrade, and at RBS Group plc the (P) Ba2-rated junior subordinated debt has been placed on review for possible downgrade.

There has been no change to the senior debt ratings of either group (Aa3 for Lloyds TSB Bank plc and Bank of Scotland plc; A1 for Lloyds Banking Group and HBOS plc; Aa3 for RBS plc and A1 for RBS Group plc), the senior subordinated debt, the non-cumulative preference shares issued by either group (rated B3), the bank financial strength ratings (C negative outlook for Lloyds TSB mapping to a Baseline Credit Assessment of A3 and C- negative outlook for BoS mapping to a BCA of Baa2; C- negative outlook for RBS plc mapping to a Baseline Credit Assessment of Baa2), the P-1 short-term debt, or the Aaa government-guaranteed debt issued by either group.

Elisabeth Rudman, Senior Credit Officer at Moody's Investors Service, commented that "Moody's downgrade of these instruments reflects our assumption of a higher probability of coupon suspension on these securities as a result of the ongoing discussion between the UK government and European Commission ("EC") on the planned state aid package." This follows Moody's press release entitled "Moody's sees broader impact on hybrid ratings triggered by EC's state aid reviews", published on 19 August 2009.

Moody's understands that the UK government is currently discussing with the EC its planned Asset Protection Scheme for both Lloyds and RBS. Moody's previously downgraded the non-cumulative preference shares of both Lloyds and RBS to B3 on 2nd June 2009 to reflect the high likelihood that the EC may require both the groups to defer coupons on hybrid instruments, in line with its objective of burden sharing. However, Moody's is now incorporating the risk that the EC could also advise the groups to refrain paying coupons on securities with cumulative coupons, following the EC advising KBC, a Belgian bank, to refrain from paying coupons on some of its cumulative hybrids.
Consequently Moody's has taken rating actions on the cumulative securities with optional deferral provision issued by both groups. The rating agency has assumed a moderate probability of omission of coupons, but notes that the coupon payments on these instruments are cumulative, thereby limiting the loss severity of a coupon deferral if it were to occur. The cumulative preference shares (with cumulative deferral and non-cash settlement through ACSM) have largely the same features as junior subordinated debt on a going concern basis, but have a preferred claim in liquidation and are rated one notch lower than the junior subordinated debt. At Lloyds Banking Group Moody's has assigned the same rating to the cumulative securities of both the operating companies and holding companies, as the analysis is based on an expected-loss approach rather than being driven by the BFSR (C, mapping to A3) and the rating agency deems the risk of omission to be similar. At RBSG the ratings of the cumulative instruments are driven by the lower BFSR (C- mapping to Baa2) and therefore we still maintain different ratings for the operating companies and holding company based on our standard view on structural subordination.

The junior subordinated debt with optional deferral issued by Scottish Widows Plc and Clerical Medical Investment Group have also been downgraded from Baa2 (negative outlook) to Ba1 (under review for further possible downgrade). The rating actions on the subordinated debt of Scottish Widows ("SW") and Clerical Medical Finance ("CMF") reflect a) the alignment of the insurance operations' subordinated ratings and outlooks to the subordinated ratings and outlooks of the corresponding banking operations within Lloyds and b) the different deferral characteristics of each debt. Moody's believes that Lloyds' capital base is increasingly managed centrally. The revised ratings and outlooks on the insurance subsidiaries therefore reflect Moody's view that the insurance subordinated ratings of SW and CMF are constrained by the ratings on the subordinated debt of the correspondent parent banking companies within Lloyds. The difference in notching between the ratings on the subordinated debt issues of CMF reflects the different deferral characteristics of each debt. In the case of the Baa2 rated junior subordinated debt and Baa1 rated senior subordinated debt, CMF has limited ability to defer payments as coupon deferral is restricted to mandatory triggers upon specified remote solvency triggers. On the contrary, in the case of the Ba1 rated junior subordinated debt, CMF has non restricted optional deferral ability.

DOWNGRADE OF CUMULATIVE PREFERENCE SHARES AND JUNIOR SUB DEBT OF LLOYDS

The instruments of the following banks have been affected by this action:
Lloyds TSB Bank:
- Cumulative junior subordinated debt (Upper Tier 2): downgraded to Ba1 (review for downgrade) from Baa2;
- Cumulative (Tier 1) preferred securities: downgraded to Ba2 (review for downgrade) from Baa3;

Bank of Scotland:
- Cumulative junior subordinated debt (Upper Tier 2): downgraded to Ba1 (review for downgrade) from Baa2;
- Cumulative (Tier 1) preferred securities: downgraded to Ba2 (review for downgrade) from Baa3;

HBOS:
- Cumulative junior subordinated debt (Upper Tier 2): downgraded to Ba1 (review for downgrade) from Baa3;

Scottish Widows (SW):
Junior Subordinated Debt from Baa2 (negative outlook) to Ba1 (review for downgrade)

Clerical Medical Finance (CMF):
Junior Subordinated Debt (guaranteed by Clerical Investment Group Ltd) from Baa2 (negative outlook) to Ba1 (review for downgrade) - €750m 4.25 per cent. Perpetual Fixed/Floating Rate Reset Subordinated
Junior Subordinated Debt (guaranteed by Clerical Investment Group Ltd) affirmed at Baa2 (negative outlook) - GBP150m 7 3/8 per cent. Undated Subordinated Guaranteed Bonds
Senior Subordinated Debt (guaranteed by Clerical Investment Group Ltd) affirmed at Baa1 (negative outlook) - GBP400m 6.45 per cent. Due 2023 Subordinated Guaranteed Bonds

REVIEW FOR DOWNGRADE OF CUMULATIVE PREFERENCE SHARES AND JUNIOR SUB DEBT OF RBS

The instruments of the following banks have been affected by this action:
RBS Plc/ Nat West Plc:
- Cumulative junior subordinated debt (Upper Tier 2) at Ba1 (negative outlook): placed on review for possible downgrade;

RBS Group Plc:
- Cumulative junior subordinated debt (Upper Tier 2) shelf programmes at (P) Ba2 (negative outlook): placed on review for possible downgrade;


PREVIOUS RATING ACTIONS AND METHODOLOGIES USED
The last rating action on RBS Group was on 10 June 2009 when the Aa3 senior debt rating of RBS plc was affirmed and the C- BFSR was confirmed.
The last rating action on Lloyds Banking Group was on 22 June 2009 when the Aa3 senior debt rating of Lloyds TSB was affirmed and the BFSR was downgraded to C.
 

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14/09/2009 - 10:48

(Teleborsa) - Roma, 14 set - La banca belga KBC Group ha lanciato un'offerta per riacquistare in denaro quattro serie di hybrid Tier-1 securities del valore nominale totale di circa 1,6 miliardi di euro. Le securities, si legge nella nota della società, saranno riacquistate al 70% del loro valore.
A Bruxelles le azioni del gruppo stanno registrando una discesa di oltre quattro punti percentuali.

per chi interessa.
 

ferdo

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14/09/2009 - 10:48

(Teleborsa) - Roma, 14 set - La banca belga KBC Group ha lanciato un'offerta per riacquistare in denaro quattro serie di hybrid Tier-1 securities del valore nominale totale di circa 1,6 miliardi di euro. Le securities, si legge nella nota della società, saranno riacquistate al 70% del loro valore.
A Bruxelles le azioni del gruppo stanno registrando una discesa di oltre quattro punti percentuali.

per chi interessa.
Caspita quotavano ultimamente sopra i 70 - non è un grande affare
 

Vet

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Cari amici ho appena avuto conferma che Deutsche Bank tassa la maggior parte delle obbligazioni perpetue al 27% ....conferma che il suo rappresentante ha avuto dall'uff. legale D.B....qualcuno sa ricordarmi per cortesia in base a quale normativa la tassazione è al 12.5%
Grazie per vs aiuto
 

bosmeld

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Hypo Re: avra' bisogno di ulteriore capitale (stampa)
FRANCOFORTE (MF-DJ)--Hypo Real Estate Holding, controllata per il 90% dal Governo tedesco, ha 16,3 miliardi di euro in perdite latenti su titoli e prestiti sui suoi libri contabili. E' quanto riporta il Der Tagesspiegel, che cita documenti interni della banca centrale tedesca. Secondo il giornale, cio' comporterebbe per il colosso di mutui tedesco la necessita' di aumentare il suo capitale fresco. Se la cifra fosse inclusa nel conto profitti e perdite, la banca avrebbe bisogno di circa 26 miliardi di euro di nuovi fondi, per assicurare che sia capitalizzata adeguatamente. fla (END) Dow Jones Newswires September 14, 2009 04:07 ET (08:07 GMT) Copyright (c) 2009 MF-Dow Jones News Srl.



per quuanto riguarda quotazioni vedo eurohyfo in salita, mi sa che le notizie positive su commerzbank gli stanno facendo bene....


moodys sembra aver abbassato rating delle cumulative llyods, e clerical, come postato i98mark.

per adesso sembra che non sono scese molto, vediamo un po se vanno un pochino giù...
 
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