Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 2 (6 lettori)
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bosmeld
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RESPARCS FDG II 03/UND (WKN 984254, ISIN DE0009842542) - Profil - Aktien, Aktienkurse - ARIVA.DE
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maxolone
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- EUR 750.000.000,00 kündbare nachrangige fix/variable Anleihe fällig Februar 2017 (ISIN: DE000HSH2H15),
- EUR 1.000.000.000,00 kündbare nachrangige variable Step-Up Anleihe fällig Februar 2017 (ISIN: DE000HSH2H23).
Die Bank wird den Gesamtnominalbetrag der Anleihen, die im Rahmen der Einladung zurückgekauft werden können, auf 50% des ausstehenden Gesamtnominalbetrages je Serie beschränken. Der Kaufpreis für beide Serien wird jeweils 68,00 % pro Stückelung betragen
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discipline
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KBC Groep: Earnings Statement KBC Group, 4Q 2011 and FY 2011
Summary: 4Q profit at 437 million euros.
Divestment and de-risking continues in a challenging market.
KBC ended the last three months of 2011 with a net profit of 437 million euros, compared with a net loss of 1 579 million euros in the previous quarter and a net profit of 724 million euros in the corresponding quarter of 2010. As a result, net profit came to 13 million euros for full-year 2011, compared to 1 860 million euros a year earlier. The 'underlying' net result for the quarter under review (after excluding one-off and exceptional items) came to 161 million euros, well up on the net loss of 248 million euros in 3Q 2011 and almost on a par with the 168 million euros in 4Q 2010.
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Significant loan loss provisions for Hungary and Ireland, and additional impairment on Greek government bonds.
* Loan loss impairment stood at 599 million euros in the fourth quarter, up on the 492 million euros recorded a year earlier, and up on the 475 million euros recorded in the previous quarter, due to significant additional provisions being set aside for Ireland, Hungary (following the new legislation on forex loans) and the corporate network in Belgium, given the unsustainable low level of impairment recorded in the third quarter of 2011. As a consequence, the annualised credit cost ratio stood at 0.82% for 2011; this breaks down into an excellent 0.10% for the Belgian retail book (down even further on the 0.15% recorded for FY2010), 1.59% in Central and Eastern Europe (up from 1.16% for FY2010) and 1.36% for Merchant Banking (down from 1.38% for FY2010). Excluding Ireland, the credit cost ratio for Merchant Banking remained at the relatively low level of 0.59% (down from 0.67% for FY2010).
* Other impairment charges came to 131 million euros in the quarter under review and related mainly to an additional impairment on Greek government bonds (85 million euros, over and above the 316 million euros booked in the previous quarters), bringing the fully recognised impairment to 71% of the nominal amount of these bonds. Strong solvency capital position under Basel II.
* The group's tier-1 ratio (under Basel II) came to a strong 12.3% at 31 December 2011 (core tier-1 ratio of 10.6%). Including the effect of divestments for which a sale agreement has been signed to date (Warta, Fidea and KBL EPB), the pro forma tier-1 ratio even stands at approximately 13.8% (core tier-1 ratio of 12.0%).
Quarterly report 4Q2011 (http://hugin.info/133947/R/1583223/495336.pdf)
Summary: 4Q profit at 437 million euros.
Divestment and de-risking continues in a challenging market.
KBC ended the last three months of 2011 with a net profit of 437 million euros, compared with a net loss of 1 579 million euros in the previous quarter and a net profit of 724 million euros in the corresponding quarter of 2010. As a result, net profit came to 13 million euros for full-year 2011, compared to 1 860 million euros a year earlier. The 'underlying' net result for the quarter under review (after excluding one-off and exceptional items) came to 161 million euros, well up on the net loss of 248 million euros in 3Q 2011 and almost on a par with the 168 million euros in 4Q 2010.
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Significant loan loss provisions for Hungary and Ireland, and additional impairment on Greek government bonds.
* Loan loss impairment stood at 599 million euros in the fourth quarter, up on the 492 million euros recorded a year earlier, and up on the 475 million euros recorded in the previous quarter, due to significant additional provisions being set aside for Ireland, Hungary (following the new legislation on forex loans) and the corporate network in Belgium, given the unsustainable low level of impairment recorded in the third quarter of 2011. As a consequence, the annualised credit cost ratio stood at 0.82% for 2011; this breaks down into an excellent 0.10% for the Belgian retail book (down even further on the 0.15% recorded for FY2010), 1.59% in Central and Eastern Europe (up from 1.16% for FY2010) and 1.36% for Merchant Banking (down from 1.38% for FY2010). Excluding Ireland, the credit cost ratio for Merchant Banking remained at the relatively low level of 0.59% (down from 0.67% for FY2010).
* Other impairment charges came to 131 million euros in the quarter under review and related mainly to an additional impairment on Greek government bonds (85 million euros, over and above the 316 million euros booked in the previous quarters), bringing the fully recognised impairment to 71% of the nominal amount of these bonds. Strong solvency capital position under Basel II.
* The group's tier-1 ratio (under Basel II) came to a strong 12.3% at 31 December 2011 (core tier-1 ratio of 10.6%). Including the effect of divestments for which a sale agreement has been signed to date (Warta, Fidea and KBL EPB), the pro forma tier-1 ratio even stands at approximately 13.8% (core tier-1 ratio of 12.0%).
Quarterly report 4Q2011 (http://hugin.info/133947/R/1583223/495336.pdf)
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fabriziof
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io ce l'ho presa 1 anno fa a 54 qualcuno ha il documento ufficiale?
capt.harlock
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era gia'un paio di giorni che sulle t1 in denaro su euronext si vedevano pezzature da 500k
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Rottweiler
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Ancora su Groupama:
Se non sbaglio Rott, nell'articolo che hai postato si metteva in dubbio la strategia di vendere le "pepites", io parlavo di gioielli.
Ben inteso, sono e resto convinto che alla fine una soluzione la troveranno. Come ero convinto che non avrebbero lasciato fallire la Lehman (ma avevo l'1% del mio portafoglio). E comunque faccio un grande in bocca al lupo a tutti(sembra che porti fortuna
Vedo che nonostante le recenti epurazioni si continua a fare riferimento alla Thailandia, come e più di prima.
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Ciao Negus,
per amor di precisione, negli articoli postati si faceva riferimento "all'opposizone alla vendita di Gan Eurocourtage da parte dei sindacati".
A meno di colpi di scena, non credo che management e azionisti coltivino questi dubbi:
"Thierry Martel nous a confirmé que la vente de Gan Eurocourtage, à laquelle nous sommes opposés, est inévitable."
Data la natura mutualista del Gruppo, non è facile capire quali sarebbero esattamente le diramazioni della "costola" in vendita nè a quanta parte dell'universo Groupama corrisponderebbe. Un articolo del 13 gennaio scorso (prima del tuo post) che ho postato si esprimeva così:
"Selon cette même source syndicale, Groupama entend céder uniquement Gan Eurocourtage IARD, la partie assurances dommages qui a réalisé un chiffre d'affaires de 819 millions d'euros en 2010 sur un total de 1,58 milliard..... Gan Eurocourtage a pris une nouvelle envergure en fusionnant le 1er janvier avec Groupama Transport (318 millions de chiffre d'affaires)."
Ricordo che il giro d'affari "combined" di Groupama si aggira (dato 2010) sui 17 miliardi di euro.
E quanto alle probabilità che la cessione si concluda, cito ancora lo stesso articolo:
"Les prétendants devraient se bousculer. Troisième compagnie dédiée au marché du courtage en France et considérée comme la pépite du groupe,.....«Gan Eurocourtage peut intéresser la quasi-totalité des compagnies françaises, mais aussi des acteurs étrangers souhaitant s'implanter sur le marché français», estime Cyrille Chartier-Kastler, président du cabinet Facts & Figures. "
Comunque, non dovremo attendere molto per sapere se questi giudizi sono fondati.
Un commento finale.
Da un certo momento in poi Groupama è diventato, per qualcuno, una sorta di psicodramma. Prima di allora era semplicemente un investimento rischioso, e come tale trattato da tutti sul 3D.
Per me rientrava (almeno a partire dalla metà dell'anno scorso) e rientra in questa seconda categoria. Per questo ogni informazione disponibile dovrebbe essere raccolta ed esaminata con il massimo di equilibrio e di razionalità.
Ognuno poi deciderà per sè.
PeterPan^
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Mo faccio una bella cosa Salomonica ... ne vendo la metà!!!
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E magari mi compro qualche ciofeca ....!!! qualche idea x una ciofeca d' OCG Max?
Thank you very much!!
Mo faccio una bella cosa Salomonica ... ne vendo la metà!!!
"In medium stat virtus!"
E magari mi compro qualche ciofeca ....!!! qualche idea x una ciofeca d' OCG Max?
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