Zorba
Bos 4 Mod
yes. Ne ho prese una miseria
Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 2
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yes. Ne ho prese una miseria
camaleonte
Forumer storico
bia06
Listen other's viewpoint avoid conflicts & wars.
capt.harlock
MENA IL CAMMELLO FAN CLUB
sns 155 45operativo lettera
mavalà
Forumer storico
non è step up.
(purtroppo, anche se lo fosse, prima dovrebbe appianare il 10 + 6 + 4 = 20% di loss)
Beschreibung:
Bitte Anleihebedingungen/Termsheets beachten. HSH Nordbank, treuhänderisch emittiert durch Banque de Luxembourg. Sparc. Kündbar zum 30.06.2014 zum Preis von 100%. Weitere Kündigungstermine immer jährlich zum 30.06, ab 2014 Floater. Coupon: 12 Monats Euribor + 215 Basispunkte. Tier-1-Anleihe.
ZusatzinformationenEmittent:HSH Nordbank AG Zinssatz:7,41 %
Währung:EUR Kleinste handelbare
Einheit:1.000,0000 vom Emittenten
kündbar:ja
step up/step down bei Ratingveränderung:nein
step up bei Emission festgesetzt:nein
step down bei Emission festgesetzt:nein
Anleihe ist nachrangig:ja
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bosmeld
Forumer storico
hsh b. de Lux XS0142391894 é step up.
anche se facendo il conto non sembra. ho chiesto appositamente all'Ir di Hsh.
Zorba
Bos 4 Mod
Bia,
è step up...
Mini incursione a ciofecolandia. Ho ripreso la mia prima ciofeca P (presa nel luglio 2009): HSH BDL. Prezzo 36,5 flat
https://www.boerse-stuttgart.de/rd/en/anleihen/factsheet?sSymbol=XS0142391894.STU
Motivi (perchè questa e non un'altra ciofeca):
- HSH sembra l'unica ciofeca tedesca ad uscire dal pantano: credo che abbia fatto 4 trim consecutivi in utile
- continuano a confermare il pagamento della cedola 2012 (che verrà pagata il 30/06/2013)
- un mese fa era a 60, adesso è a 36,5.
Perchè questa e non la Resparcs 8%? perchè la BDL sembra essere step up, per cui al 30/06/2014 non si qualificherebbe più nè come T1 nè come T2. Se poi HSH restasse statale (parliamo della Germania), il debito senior sarebbe cmq emesso a meno di EUr3M +2,15%, per cui potrebbe davvero essere richiamata (fonte MS
).
NB: disclaimer: HSH è un ciofeca, da girare alla larga.
bosmeld
Forumer storico
sto sentendo interessante conference call di primaria banca francese
riassumendo possibilitá di B. di rimanere al governo 5%
si aspettano nei prossimi giorni qualche buona news da italy.
che potrebbe generare un piccolo rimbalzetto
ma restano molto cauti sul medio termine.
stanno poi parlando che l'unica soluzione
sia utilizzo bce per leverege esfe
esfs
parlano poi anche di un probrema di margini sui btp
se le cose peggiorano
che potrebbe portare a vendite forzate
anche se é una cosa di settimane e non giorni
per ultimo hanno fatto notare anche l'allargamento dell'Oat.
praticamente come claudio pensano che la bce deve poter comprare massicciamente.
riassumendo possibilitá di B. di rimanere al governo 5%
si aspettano nei prossimi giorni qualche buona news da italy.
che potrebbe generare un piccolo rimbalzetto
ma restano molto cauti sul medio termine.
stanno poi parlando che l'unica soluzione
sia utilizzo bce per leverege esfe
esfs
parlano poi anche di un probrema di margini sui btp
se le cose peggiorano
che potrebbe portare a vendite forzate
anche se é una cosa di settimane e non giorni
per ultimo hanno fatto notare anche l'allargamento dell'Oat.
praticamente come claudio pensano che la bce deve poter comprare massicciamente.
bosmeld
Forumer storico
commerz
[Reuters] TEXT-Fitch: Commerzbank has challenge to hit capital target
[CBKG.DE] (The following statement was released by the rating agency) Nov 7 - Fitch Ratings says Commerzbank's <CBKG.DE> third-quarter results highlight the growing challenge the bank faces in strengthening capital levels as growth of its core business stalls and its ability to reduce risk-weighted assets remains limited. These challenges resulted in Commerzbank announcing last week that it would be taking more severe moves to cut its balance sheet. Commerzbank, which must find EUR2.938bn of additional capital by mid-2012 under the European Banking Authority's preliminary estimate, generated broadly stable revenue in its core business in the first nine months of 2011 compared with the previous year. But Fitch sees a risk that this performance may not be sustainable due to weak global economic prospects and the market environment in Europe. If the global economy deteriorates, loan-impairment charges would likely rise from their current low levels, absorbing any benefit from cost-cutting measures. The possible downturn in earnings from core business may limit the bank's ability to bolster its capital via retained earnings. Commerzbank said Friday it will take several immediate steps to reduce its risk-weighted assets by around EUR10bn-EUR15bn by mid-2012 from end-3Q levels. This includes temporarily suspending new business at its Eurohypo unit and halting new loan business that is not connected to Germany or Poland. However, Fitch notes that despite ongoing efforts to shrink its balance sheet, the group's risk-weighted assets actually edged up slightly in the third quarter compared to the second, partly relating to foreign exchange movements. Commerzbank raised EUR11bn of capital earlier in 2011 through a rights issue. This could dampen shareholder appetite for further equity increases, so Fitch expects any need for additional capital would be met mostly by the state. In this context, Commerzbank is also planning the accelerated reduction or sale of non-strategic assets as well as reviewing the possibility of selling certain financial investments. Commerzbank's Long-Term Issuer Default Rating is at its Support Rating Floor of 'A+' reflecting Fitch's view that further government support, if needed, would be extremely likely to be forthcoming. The Viability Rating is at 'bbb-', which reflects the challenges faced by the bank. It also is based on the core bank remaining profitable -- with its franchise unaffected by ongoing restructuring -- and Commerzbank's reduced capital market funding needs, which Fitch expects to be manageable.
trimestre negativo per commerz che ha svalutato grecia e un po di altre cosette
https://www.commerzbank.de/en/haupt...al_11_04/presse_archiv_detail_11_04_8945.html
sui 9 mesi cmq sono ancora in attivo per EUR 344 million
[Reuters] TEXT-Fitch: Commerzbank has challenge to hit capital target
[CBKG.DE] (The following statement was released by the rating agency) Nov 7 - Fitch Ratings says Commerzbank's <CBKG.DE> third-quarter results highlight the growing challenge the bank faces in strengthening capital levels as growth of its core business stalls and its ability to reduce risk-weighted assets remains limited. These challenges resulted in Commerzbank announcing last week that it would be taking more severe moves to cut its balance sheet. Commerzbank, which must find EUR2.938bn of additional capital by mid-2012 under the European Banking Authority's preliminary estimate, generated broadly stable revenue in its core business in the first nine months of 2011 compared with the previous year. But Fitch sees a risk that this performance may not be sustainable due to weak global economic prospects and the market environment in Europe. If the global economy deteriorates, loan-impairment charges would likely rise from their current low levels, absorbing any benefit from cost-cutting measures. The possible downturn in earnings from core business may limit the bank's ability to bolster its capital via retained earnings. Commerzbank said Friday it will take several immediate steps to reduce its risk-weighted assets by around EUR10bn-EUR15bn by mid-2012 from end-3Q levels. This includes temporarily suspending new business at its Eurohypo unit and halting new loan business that is not connected to Germany or Poland. However, Fitch notes that despite ongoing efforts to shrink its balance sheet, the group's risk-weighted assets actually edged up slightly in the third quarter compared to the second, partly relating to foreign exchange movements. Commerzbank raised EUR11bn of capital earlier in 2011 through a rights issue. This could dampen shareholder appetite for further equity increases, so Fitch expects any need for additional capital would be met mostly by the state. In this context, Commerzbank is also planning the accelerated reduction or sale of non-strategic assets as well as reviewing the possibility of selling certain financial investments. Commerzbank's Long-Term Issuer Default Rating is at its Support Rating Floor of 'A+' reflecting Fitch's view that further government support, if needed, would be extremely likely to be forthcoming. The Viability Rating is at 'bbb-', which reflects the challenges faced by the bank. It also is based on the core bank remaining profitable -- with its franchise unaffected by ongoing restructuring -- and Commerzbank's reduced capital market funding needs, which Fitch expects to be manageable.
trimestre negativo per commerz che ha svalutato grecia e un po di altre cosette
https://www.commerzbank.de/en/haupt...al_11_04/presse_archiv_detail_11_04_8945.html
sui 9 mesi cmq sono ancora in attivo per EUR 344 million
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riccio43
lupo si lupo no
mi auto ripeto con la speranza di trovare qlc. Nel frattempo non ho aderito,entro oggi, al contante ed alle azioni a 730 mi resta l'opzione entro l'11.11 di avere 700 azioni ogni 100 obb.
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