Rottweiler
Forumer storico
Rott, mi chiarisci meglio dove lo si interpreta dal prospetto ? io insisto nel dire che la 464 non è obbligata a pagare anche se solvency sopra 100, ma sarei ben lieto di convincermi del contrario. potresti dirmi da dove lo si desume nel prospetto ?
ciao,
il pagamento della cedola a me risulta sempre facoltativo a meno che non si siano verificati i "soliti" casi : pagamento di dividendo sulle azioni nei 12 mesi precedenti etc...
Solo quando si verificano le due condizioni (solvency event sopra 100 e pagamento dividendo azionario etc...) la cedola diventa mandatory. (anzi tre condizioni, non deve esserci nemmeno "regulatory intervention"
L'anno scorso ad esempio Groupama ha pagato dividendo azionario a fine maggio per cui in assenza di solvency event e regulatory intervention la cedola e' diventata obbligatoria
Compulsory Interest Payment Dates
On any Compulsory Interest Payment Date, the Issuer shall pay interest accrued to that date in respect of
the Notes.
Compulsory Interest Payment Date means each Interest Payment Date prior to which, provided that (x)
no Solvency Event has occurred prior to such Interest Payment Date and would continue to do so assuming
that the interest due on such Interest Payment Date then outstanding (including any Arrears of Interest) is
paid on such Interest Payment Date and (y) no Regulatory Intervention has occurred prior to such Interest
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or Junior Securities in accordance with their terms; or
(v) for so long as there are Applicable Regulations in force with respect to the Combined Regulatory
Group, any Relevant Affiliated Entity has made Equivalent Payments in an aggregate amount
exceeding the Reference Amount.
Stavo rileggendomi il prospetto dopo il commento di Mavalà e vedo che Sole mi ha preceduto.
Provo a correggermi così:
*per la 464 il Solvency Margin superiore a 100 (=assenza di Solvency event) da solo non rende obbligatoria la cedola. Proprio come Sole ha appena scritto.
*per la 751 le condizioni per una cedola obbligatoria sono le stesse della 464 oppure l'essere rimasti, per il cosiddetto Relevant Financial Period, al di sopra del 150% di Margin.
Quindi, se non mi sono sbagliato, il coupon pusher basato sul Solvency Margin (150%) varrebbe solo per la 751.
Mavalà, Solenoide: siete d'accordo?