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Massimum

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Anche per me Bos a breve (1 mese) dovrebbero salire sopra 40 ...e sbattere su quella resistenza posta tra 42 e 44 ...;)



Confermo ...sono d'accordo con te:up: oggi è stato un "brusco" ma piacevole riallineamento ....d'accordissimo ...difficile vedere per domani un altro rally ...anche se sarebbe bello :D



Vero anche questo :up:dovrebbero ...continuare a stringere lo spread ...ma non cosi in fretta ...vedremo




Sono uscito da BA-CA a 60 circa ad ottobre 2010 bel gain 40k ma le avevo da giugno 2010 ...e mi sono infilato dritto dritto ... apprendendo dai GURU qui dentro ..su Övag...logicamente....con tutto :wall:...se avessi spezzato a metà tra Venezuela e Övag avrei in tasca 15k eurozzi in più come minimo ... .mi sono fatto la discesa da 37 a 33 lettera ma il danaro era 29 ...significava per me l' ipotetica perdita di 80k cioè il 33% circa di tutto il mio capitale ora sono ritornato in Gain ...anche se di poco ..è dura rimanere ma bisogna guardare avanti anche se la tentazione di incassare e andare in Venezuela con i Bonds che rendono in $ più dell'11% come rend. immediato netto non sarebbe male...guardando pure al petrolio oltre 100 $ ;)...rimango ma sopra 42-43 vi confido che sarà dura resistere ..(se i prezzi deli Chavez Bonds) rimangono fermi lì tirerei fuori con Övag liquidata a 43 ben 3.750 eurozzi netti al mese pagato la leva ... intanto sono contento e mi godo la salita ...speriamo continui ...GRAZIE a Tutti per gli interventi e news nonchè la competenza che ci mettete per rendere questo 3ead UNICO :vicini:

Russia se punti su Venezuela perchè invece dei TDS non prendi i subordinati di PVDSA. Non sono lunghissimi (scadenze 2014, 2015 e 2016), cedola tra 4,9% e 5% e prezzo tra i 60 e i 70 (a seconda delle scadenze), YTM intorno al 17%.

Tanto con il Venezuela se salta, salta tutto
 

discipline

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The Governor and Company of the Bank of Ireland (The Bank of Ireland)
Bank of Ireland Response to Statements by the Minister for Finance and the Central Bank of Ireland

9 February 2011

Bank of Ireland ('the Bank') notes today's announcements by the Minister for Finance and the Central Bank of Ireland.

Bank of Ireland is actively engaged with the Central Bank of Ireland and its advisors in relation to the Prudential Liquidity Assessment Review ('PLAR') and the Prudential Capital Assessment Review ('PCAR') exercises, which are scheduled to complete by 31 March 2011.

The Bank continues to work actively, with its advisors, on initiatives to meet regulatory capital requirements through a combination of internal capital management initiatives, support from existing shareholders and other capital markets sources.

Significant progress has already been made in strengthening the Bank's capital position and the Bank announced, on 17 December 2010, that it had generated c. €700 million in equity accretion through a debt exchange offer. Since that date, the Bank has generated equity accretion of c. €40 million through the sale of Bank of Ireland Asset Management and is currently engaged in a Canadian Dollar liability management exercise, the results of which will be announced tomorrow.
 

BASCHENISSS

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Acq. Oggi tardo pomeriggio, con iwbank westlb xs0216711340, eseguito a 24,50 con ordine inserito a 27,00 in acq. Scrivo poco, perche ho poco da direma, ma molto da imparare . Buona notte
 

nik.sala

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Bella domanda Nik. Ho provato a cercare ma nulla ho trovato.

Prima di entrare sulle due p. da 50k, poco tempo fa, avevo fatto un indagine "verbale" con un conoscente che lavora ad Amsterdam : ING).

Mi aveva tranquilizzato, unico neo : le dimensioni.

Ma di pezze d'appoggio "concrete" ne ho poche.


Ciao. :)

le hai entrambe tu amorgos ???
Sia la 155 che la 523 ???
Io mi sto :mad: a forza di aspettare che la 523 vada a 96/97, ma continuo imperterrito :wall:
 

nik.sala

Money Never Sleeps
corretto su BP: tante controparti, onestissimi nel chiudere la compravendita , tutte tassate al 12,5% , però alcuni bond non li fa prendere neanche da qualificato. Però ora con tutta la montagna di azioni che sottoscrivo da loro per l'aumento BP , voglio proprio vedere se le cose cambieranno .Anche se di queste alla fine ,me ne terrò solo 1 + una miseria vecchie

fammi sapere fabbro se si smuove qualcosa in bp.
Io, per quanto mi riguarda, ho provato a smouovere a destra e manca senza successo :rolleyes:
 

Zorba

Bos 4 Mod
Expert commission says wind down Hypo Real -sources

Wed Feb 9, 2011 10:20am EST

* Experts find HRE not indispensable for Germany - sources
* Also recommend winding down WestLB - sources
* Says state could up Commerzbank stake before exit -sources


FRANKFURT, Feb 9 (Reuters) - Ailing German lender Hypo Real Estate (HRE) [NUEG.UL] should be wound down, a German expert commission has recommended, two sources familiar with the matter told Reuters on Wednesday.
"The experts can see only slim chances that a privatisation of HRE would become a success," said one of the people with knowledge of a report drafted on behalf of the German government by the expert commission.
Due to overcapacity in the markets where nationalised mortgage lender and state financier HRE is active, the experts concluded that a sale would not yield higher proceeds than a liquidation, the source added.
HRE required more than 100 billion euros ($136.5 billion) in German government assistance in the financial crisis, bailed out because it was seen as crucial to the stability of the country's covered bond market.
The European Commission and Germany are likely nearing a solution on disputed state aid for HRE, the European Union's competition chief Joaquin Almunia said last week. [ID:nWEA5229]
The expert commission judged that both HRE and ailing public-sector bank WestLB [WDLG.UL] were "not indispensable" for the German economy and could be wound down, the sources said.
HRE said in a statement that given restructuring successes, a reprivatisation was the option that would maximise value, adding: "We expect that (core bank) pbb will be profitable in 2011."
According to sources, WestLB is nearing a deal that will keep key parts under public-sector control, but leave other units to be scooped up by investors. [ID:nLDE711296]
Almunia has set a Feb. 15 deadline to resolve the issue.

COMMERZBANK
The expert commission also commented on possible strategies for the government to exit Commerzbank (CBKG.DE), Germany's second-biggest lender.
The state owns 25 percent of Commerzbank and has granted it a 16.2 billion euro capital injection in the form of a non-voting so-called "silent participation".
One option is that the government could swap the silent participation for equity and thereby hike its stake to roughly 80 percent and then sell it to a foreign competitor, the sources said, quoting from the draft report.
This would allow the government to secure a higher price, as buyers usually pay premiums for majority stakes.
However, a source close to the government said it was unlikely that Germany would press ahead and sell Commerzbank to a foreign investor.
Commerzbank and WestLB declined to comment on the report, which had earlier surfaced in German media.
 

maxolone

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Ma nel caso qui citato dove finiscono le p. di west lb ? Nelle parte pubblica o quella da vendere ai privati ? E poi non esiste gia' una bad bank cosiddetta ? Le parti da vendere a cui si rferiscono nell' articolo fanno parte della bad bank o di west lb al momento ?

Expert commission says wind down Hypo Real -sources

Wed Feb 9, 2011 10:20am EST

* Experts find HRE not indispensable for Germany - sources
* Also recommend winding down WestLB - sources
* Says state could up Commerzbank stake before exit -sources


FRANKFURT, Feb 9 (Reuters) - Ailing German lender Hypo Real Estate (HRE) [NUEG.UL] should be wound down, a German expert commission has recommended, two sources familiar with the matter told Reuters on Wednesday.
"The experts can see only slim chances that a privatisation of HRE would become a success," said one of the people with knowledge of a report drafted on behalf of the German government by the expert commission.
Due to overcapacity in the markets where nationalised mortgage lender and state financier HRE is active, the experts concluded that a sale would not yield higher proceeds than a liquidation, the source added.
HRE required more than 100 billion euros ($136.5 billion) in German government assistance in the financial crisis, bailed out because it was seen as crucial to the stability of the country's covered bond market.
The European Commission and Germany are likely nearing a solution on disputed state aid for HRE, the European Union's competition chief Joaquin Almunia said last week. [ID:nWEA5229]
The expert commission judged that both HRE and ailing public-sector bank WestLB [WDLG.UL] were "not indispensable" for the German economy and could be wound down, the sources said.
HRE said in a statement that given restructuring successes, a reprivatisation was the option that would maximise value, adding: "We expect that (core bank) pbb will be profitable in 2011."
According to sources, WestLB is nearing a deal that will keep key parts under public-sector control, but leave other units to be scooped up by investors. [ID:nLDE711296]
Almunia has set a Feb. 15 deadline to resolve the issue.

COMMERZBANK
The expert commission also commented on possible strategies for the government to exit Commerzbank (CBKG.DE), Germany's second-biggest lender.
The state owns 25 percent of Commerzbank and has granted it a 16.2 billion euro capital injection in the form of a non-voting so-called "silent participation".
One option is that the government could swap the silent participation for equity and thereby hike its stake to roughly 80 percent and then sell it to a foreign competitor, the sources said, quoting from the draft report.
This would allow the government to secure a higher price, as buyers usually pay premiums for majority stakes.
However, a source close to the government said it was unlikely that Germany would press ahead and sell Commerzbank to a foreign investor.
Commerzbank and WestLB declined to comment on the report, which had earlier surfaced in German media.
 
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