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bosmeld

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[Reuters] New Issue-ING Bank prices 1.75 bln euro 2021 bond
[INGBKL.UL] Aug 24 (Reuters) -Following are terms and conditions of a covered bond priced on Wednesday. Borrower ING Bank NV Issue Amount 1.75 billion euro Maturity Date August 31, 2021 Coupon 3.625 pct Reoffer price 99.992 Spread 80 basis points Underlying govt bond Over Mid-swaps, equivalent to 144.7 bp over the 3.25 pct July 2021 DBR Payment Date August 31, 2011 Lead Manager(s) Barclays, BNP Paribas,Deutsche Bank & ING Ratings Aaa (Moody's), AAA (S&P), AAA (Fitch) Denoms (K) 100-1 ISIN XS0671362506



dovrebbe essere un covered bond, ma é cmq un ottimo tasso di finanziamento a 10 anni di questi tempi
 

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Se callessero tra un anno, vorrebbe dire fare +16%, certo, ma vorrebbe anche dire che la situazione si e' sistemata. Dubito che ci possano essere call nello scenario attuale (salvo regali o prove di forza di qualche emittente). Se cosi' fosse, sarebbe cmq meglio un'altra P che garantisca un ritorno piu' elevato. Imho ovviamente:)

La vediamo leggermente diversa, grazie comunque.
 

bosmeld

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Documento di HSH Nordbank che fa alcune precisazioni in merito ai risultati degli stress test. Imho e' interessante:
- gli stress test non hanno conteggiato le silent participation come CT1
- Hsh ha una esposizione limitata Piigs
- il deleveraging continua

http://www.hsh-nordbank.de/media/pdf/investorrelations/corporatenews/investorbriefing_20110727.pdf?



tra le ciofeche mi sembra una delle meglio.

speriamo di non sbagliarci.


mi piace molto anche eurohypo a questi prezzi. specie la tasso fisso.
mi ricordo ancora all'inzio dell'anno. ero pieno di eurohypo, mi alzo dal letto accendo cell e computer e .... OPA che bell'inzio di anno che fu.

peccato essersi rimangiati tutto :(
 

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Bawag

Risultati di Bawag del primo semestre al di sotto delle attese. Ho trovato solo questa Reuters in tedesco:

Österreichische Bawag verdient im ersten Halbjahr weniger
Mittwoch, 24. August 2011, 11:04 Uhr Diesen Artikel drucken [-] Text [+]
Wien (Reuters) - Die österreichische Bank Bawag P.S.K hat im ersten Halbjahr wegen geringerer Handelserträge und einer neuen Bankensteuer einen Gewinnrückgang verbucht.

Unter dem Strich stand ein knapp 19 Prozent geringeres Plus von 78,5 Millionen Euro, wie das Institut am Mittwoch mitteilte.

Das Handelsergebnis der Bank schrumpfte um gut 55 Prozent auf knapp 59 Millionen Euro, während die Zins- und Provisionserträge jeweils einstellig zulegten. Zudem belastete die neue Bankensteuer in Österreich das Institut mit gut zehn Millionen Euro.

Die Bank gehört dem Finanzinvestor Cerberus, der das ehemalige Gewerkschaftsinstitut nach einem Bankenskankdal gekauft hatte. Sie stand noch vor dem Ausbruch der Finanzkrise durch fehlgeschlagene Spekulationsgeschäfte in der Karibik 2007 am Abgrund. Nach turbulenten Jahren hatte die Bawag im vergangenen Jahr das erste Mal seit langem wieder Geld verdient: Unter dem Strich blieb ein Gewinn von 125,4 Millionen Euro.

Ihr Engagement in den schuldengeplagten Länder Europas hat die Bawag per Ende Juni auf 43 von 53 Millionen Euro reduziert. "Die Bawag geht davon aus, dass die weitere Entwicklung der Schuldenkrise unbedeutende Auswirkungen auf das Kaptital der Bank haben werden", hieß es in der Mitteilung.

Für das zweite Halbjahr erwartet das Geldhaus "zahlreichen Herausforderungen für den europäischen Bankensektor". Die Kapitalmärkte würden volatil bleiben. Zudem seien externe negative Effekte - etwa aus der Schuldenkrise - für die österreichische Wirtschaft zu erwarten.
 

bosmeld

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riassunto della giornata.



ancora cali in giro.

irs per il momento reggono baluardo 50 piú o meno.



diverse distressed hanno sbragato (finalmente)

eurohypo, rbs, hsh (per quelli non deboli di cuore potrebbero essere forse approfondite)





p.s letto trimestrale in tedesco di bawag (peró non parlo tedesco) da quel poco che ho capito (solo i numeri) non mi sembrano male cmq
 
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bosmeld

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mi ripeto, ma dico ancora una cosa.


se e quando si uscirá da questa crisi, sempre piú persone si accorgeranno della qualitá del Gruppo ING. che nell'europa continentale francamente é un diamante, e piano piano luccicherá sempre piú.

io lo dico dal 2009 :)


comprare le altre irs non ha senso quando ing costa uguale. almeno secondo me.


e mi sbilancio ancora di piú per me prima o dopo verrá sempre piú accumunato a Rabobank, anche se ci vorrano ancora anni.




dimenticavo peró di dire una cosa importante. la mia idea é questa. ma se il mercato continua ad andare giú, anche le perp. di ing scenderanno ancora
 
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bosmeld

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Greek Banks Seen Taking EUR5 Bln Hit From Swap Deal



By Costas Paris and Alkman Granitsas
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
LONDON (Dow Jones)--Greek banks are expected to face combined losses totalling about EUR5 billion under a proposed bond swap program, a Greek government official said Wednesday, adding that the program is now slated to conclude in October.
Speaking to Dow Jones Newswires, the official added that the banks are expected to reflect the impact of those losses when they announce their quarterly earnings next week.
"The amount of the losses is yet to be determined, but estimates are for roughly EUR5 billion. They may be reflected in the banks' second quarter results due by August 31," the official said.
"The banks will have to state whether they will participate, and also their preferred instrument of participation, by early September, while the process is expected to be completed in October," the official added.
In July, European Union leaders agreed to a new EUR109 billion aid program for Greece to cover its financing needs for the next several years. Central to the Greek plan is a distressed-debt exchange whereby the country's private-sector creditors agree to accept new bonds worth less than their original holdings.
The exchange would offer creditors four choices to swap or roll over their existing Greek government bonds maturing in the next nine years, with new 15- and 30-year debt that would pay 21% less than their original holdings.
The Institute for International Finance, a trade body of the world's leading banks and author of the plan, has said the exchange would slice EUR13.5 billion off Greece's total stock of EUR350 billion in public debt, while also lengthening the maturity profile of Greece's debt.
According to the official, Greek banks will most likely choose the option that involves rolling over existing bonds maturing between now and 2020--or possibly by 2024--with new 30-year ones at par value with a weighted average coupon of 4.75%.
"Greek banks may mostly opt for the rollover option because it suits them better," the official said without elaborating. According to analysts, the rollover option may have the smallest impact on the banks' capital position and any losses could therefore be absorbed more easily.
Greek banks hold a combined portfolio of around EUR40 billion worth of Greek government bonds and, relative to other European banks, will feel the biggest impact from the exchange program.
For that reason, talks between the Greek government, bankers and international auditors over the bond swap program--which began late last month in Athens--have been heavily focussed on technical and accounting details.
Earlier this week, Greece's government sent a letter to Greek banks setting a Sept. 9 deadline for them to detail their participation in the bond swap program, according to Greek banking sources. Later this week, the banks will receive a more detailed memorandum outlining the broad terms of the deal, the official added.
But the talks have dragged on longer than expected with the government originally hoping to wrap up a final deal ahead of the banks' earnings announcements.
Next Monday and Tuesday, Greece's four major lenders--the National Bank of Greece SA (NBG), Alpha Bank SA (ALPHA.AT), EFG Eurobank Ergasias SA (EUROB.AT) and Piraeus Bank SA (TPEIR.AT)--are due to announce second quarter results.





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per me quest'anno le banche greche lo chiudono in perdita. do una possibilitá a Nbog, se fará delle operazioni straordinarie di vendita controllata turca.


penso che la possibilitá che il prossimo anno paghino cedole sia molto molto difficile.
 
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