Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 2 (5 lettori)
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steff
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Secondo GS il futuro e tuttaltro che roseo:
New York - Ormai l'Eurozona cosi' come la conosciamo ha raggiunto un punto critico e il tempo a disposizione per trovare una soluzione sta per scadere. L'avvertimento viene dal presidente di Goldman Sachs Asset Management, Jim O'Neill. "Two years maximum is my perception of the time the euro zone has left to survive in its current form, though the reality is probably far less than that. Markets being markets, we've unveiled a degree of speed with the Spanish and Italian bond yields and I can't see us getting through the summer without some serious consequences" "Due anni al massimo - ha detto all'emittente CNBC O'Neill, noto per aver coniato il termine BRIC - questo e' il tempo che e' rimasto all'Eurozona per riuscire a sopravvivere nalla forma in cui la conosciamo ora". "Con ogni probabilita' poi - ha aggiunto O'Neill - la realita' e' un'altra e il tempo a disposizione e' ancora piu' limitato". L'Unione Monetaria Europea nel suo complesso sta lentamente cessando di funzionare, dopo che le autorita' europee hanno ripetutamente fallito all'appuntamento, non essendo riuscite a prendere decisioni risolutive. "L'EMU cosi' com'e' strutturata non funziona. O si creano gli Stati Uniti d'Europa o non si creano", ha aggunto O'Neill. Non ci siano vie di mezzo.
New York - Ormai l'Eurozona cosi' come la conosciamo ha raggiunto un punto critico e il tempo a disposizione per trovare una soluzione sta per scadere. L'avvertimento viene dal presidente di Goldman Sachs Asset Management, Jim O'Neill. "Two years maximum is my perception of the time the euro zone has left to survive in its current form, though the reality is probably far less than that. Markets being markets, we've unveiled a degree of speed with the Spanish and Italian bond yields and I can't see us getting through the summer without some serious consequences" "Due anni al massimo - ha detto all'emittente CNBC O'Neill, noto per aver coniato il termine BRIC - questo e' il tempo che e' rimasto all'Eurozona per riuscire a sopravvivere nalla forma in cui la conosciamo ora". "Con ogni probabilita' poi - ha aggiunto O'Neill - la realita' e' un'altra e il tempo a disposizione e' ancora piu' limitato". L'Unione Monetaria Europea nel suo complesso sta lentamente cessando di funzionare, dopo che le autorita' europee hanno ripetutamente fallito all'appuntamento, non essendo riuscite a prendere decisioni risolutive. "L'EMU cosi' com'e' strutturata non funziona. O si creano gli Stati Uniti d'Europa o non si creano", ha aggunto O'Neill. Non ci siano vie di mezzo.
Topgun1976
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Il mio ragionamento è molto semplice: costa 37 38,Lt2 classica,no skip,no loss abs,emittente Francese,spread francia a 100(quindi si finanzia a poco o nulla),ristrutturazione in corso e a buon punto,Basel 3 con tutte le sue restrizioni verso le Lt2 classiche in avvicinamento(5mesi).
Secondo me qlc Opa la fanno per togliersi almeno una parte dei 500mil di emissione(se io fossi il ceo lo farei ieri
),se da qui a fine anno dovesse scapparci qlc news decente(tipo bce,licenza esm)questa impenna a prescindere.Poi nulla è sicuro,ma vale la pena provarci PER ME
Ps. la cedola è ridicola,è come una flat o poco più
Ultima modifica di un moderatore:
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Listen other's viewpoint avoid conflicts & wars.
solovaloreaggiunto
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Come dargli torto.. Due anni mi sembra gia ottimistico... O si mettono cap a yield oppure facciamocene una ragione... Back to our own currency . In contesti talmente oscuri , io le valute non le abbandono per il prossimo futuro. Qui bisogna salvaguardare il patrimonio ..non si scherza
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Fitch Affirms Generali at IFS 'A-'; Outlook Negative Ratings Endorsement Policy
24 Jul 2012 12:32 PM (EDT)
Fitch Ratings-London-24 July 2012: Fitch Ratings has affirmed Assicurazioni Generali SpA's (Generali) and its core subsidiaries' Insurer Financial Strength (IFS) ratings at 'A-' and Long-term Issuer Default Ratings (IDR) at 'BBB+'. The Outlooks are Negative. Fitch has also affirmed Generali's hybrid subordinated notes at 'BBB-' and senior notes at 'BBB+'. A full list of rating actions is at the end of this release.
The affirmation reflects Generali's solid operating performance amid challenging trading conditions in Italy and Spain in particular, strong control over potential increase in lapses and distribution, strong underwriting practices and a leading franchise in Italy. Generali's ratings also reflect the group's successful multi-channel, multi-brand approach and brand recognition.
The Negative Outlook is however explained by Generali's high exposure to the eurozone debt crisis, primarily through its significant holding of Italian sovereign debt. This, along with Generali's high investment leverage, suggests that any further deterioration in Italy's creditworthiness could erode the group capital significantly. Fitch however takes comfort from the ongoing de-risking of Generali's balance sheet, with lower exposure to equities and reduced cross-border exposure to peripheral European debt.
Generali faced volatile and adverse trading conditions in its core non-life markets in 2011. Nonetheless, the group's combined ratio improved to 96.5% from 98.8% in 2010, a level which Fitch views sustainable in the medium term. Generali's life insurance result was hit by impairment losses on Greek government bonds, in particular, and on its participation in Telco, despite an improvement in its technical margin. Whist the group's operating result proved resilient and technical margins will be supported by a better product mix, lower guarantees offered to policyholders and higher upfront charges, Fitch notes that Generali's life earnings are sensitive to changes in interest rates, credit spreads, as well as the value of equities.
Fitch believes that Generali's risk-adjusted capital ratio is adequate for the group's current ratings level. However, its capital is vulnerable to stress due to Generali's substantial exposure to Italian sovereign debt (amounting to EUR44.2bn at end-2011 or around 3x consolidated shareholders' funds) and high investment leverage. Fitch also cautions that Generali's ability to pass losses on to policyholders may reduce should peripheral European government bonds face more extreme scenarios of financial distress. Furthermore, Generali's significant levels of goodwill and intangibles detract from the quality of its capital.
Financial leverage is relatively high and fixed-charge coverage is relatively low but nonetheless at acceptable levels. In addition, Fitch deems Generali's financial flexibility to be solid, as proven by the successful refinancing of subordinated securities, a market-friendly solution to investors. Nonetheless, Generali has EUR2.25bn of senior debt due in 2014.
Generali's operations are well diversified geographically and its ratings are not automatically capped by Italy's sovereign rating. It is, however, not insulated from economies in which government austerity measures are likely to dampen private consumption and investment. As a result, a downgrade of Italy's Long-term IDR could lead to a downgrade of Generali.
The ratings could also be downgraded if Generali fails to maintain Fitch's calculated risk-based capitalisation at its current level, or if the consolidated solvency margin falls below 120% for a prolonged period of time. In addition, if Fitch assesses that Generali's pro-forma capital performance is poorer under extreme scenarios than previously anticipated, the ratings could be downgraded.
The ratings could also be downgraded if financial leverage increases structurally from current levels (34%).
Conversely, if Italy's sovereign rating is upgraded, Generali's ratings could be upgraded should its capital ratios (both actual and pro-forma as calculated by Fitch) also improve.
Generali is the parent company and main operating entity of one of Europe's largest insurance groups. Total group-wide life sales in 2011 were EUR46.6bn. It holds a dominant position in Italy through its ownership of INA Assitalia and Alleanza Toro. Generali is also well established in Germany (through Generali Deutschland), France (Generali Iard and Generali Vie), Spain (Generali Espana), Switzerland (BSI and Generali Switzerland) and central and eastern Europe through its joint venture, Generali PPF Holding.
Fitch Affirms Generali at IFS 'A-'; Outlook Negative Ratings Endorsement Policy
24 Jul 2012 12:32 PM (EDT)
Fitch Ratings-London-24 July 2012: Fitch Ratings has affirmed Assicurazioni Generali SpA's (Generali) and its core subsidiaries' Insurer Financial Strength (IFS) ratings at 'A-' and Long-term Issuer Default Ratings (IDR) at 'BBB+'. The Outlooks are Negative. Fitch has also affirmed Generali's hybrid subordinated notes at 'BBB-' and senior notes at 'BBB+'. A full list of rating actions is at the end of this release.
The affirmation reflects Generali's solid operating performance amid challenging trading conditions in Italy and Spain in particular, strong control over potential increase in lapses and distribution, strong underwriting practices and a leading franchise in Italy. Generali's ratings also reflect the group's successful multi-channel, multi-brand approach and brand recognition.
The Negative Outlook is however explained by Generali's high exposure to the eurozone debt crisis, primarily through its significant holding of Italian sovereign debt. This, along with Generali's high investment leverage, suggests that any further deterioration in Italy's creditworthiness could erode the group capital significantly. Fitch however takes comfort from the ongoing de-risking of Generali's balance sheet, with lower exposure to equities and reduced cross-border exposure to peripheral European debt.
Generali faced volatile and adverse trading conditions in its core non-life markets in 2011. Nonetheless, the group's combined ratio improved to 96.5% from 98.8% in 2010, a level which Fitch views sustainable in the medium term. Generali's life insurance result was hit by impairment losses on Greek government bonds, in particular, and on its participation in Telco, despite an improvement in its technical margin. Whist the group's operating result proved resilient and technical margins will be supported by a better product mix, lower guarantees offered to policyholders and higher upfront charges, Fitch notes that Generali's life earnings are sensitive to changes in interest rates, credit spreads, as well as the value of equities.
Fitch believes that Generali's risk-adjusted capital ratio is adequate for the group's current ratings level. However, its capital is vulnerable to stress due to Generali's substantial exposure to Italian sovereign debt (amounting to EUR44.2bn at end-2011 or around 3x consolidated shareholders' funds) and high investment leverage. Fitch also cautions that Generali's ability to pass losses on to policyholders may reduce should peripheral European government bonds face more extreme scenarios of financial distress. Furthermore, Generali's significant levels of goodwill and intangibles detract from the quality of its capital.
Financial leverage is relatively high and fixed-charge coverage is relatively low but nonetheless at acceptable levels. In addition, Fitch deems Generali's financial flexibility to be solid, as proven by the successful refinancing of subordinated securities, a market-friendly solution to investors. Nonetheless, Generali has EUR2.25bn of senior debt due in 2014.
Generali's operations are well diversified geographically and its ratings are not automatically capped by Italy's sovereign rating. It is, however, not insulated from economies in which government austerity measures are likely to dampen private consumption and investment. As a result, a downgrade of Italy's Long-term IDR could lead to a downgrade of Generali.
The ratings could also be downgraded if Generali fails to maintain Fitch's calculated risk-based capitalisation at its current level, or if the consolidated solvency margin falls below 120% for a prolonged period of time. In addition, if Fitch assesses that Generali's pro-forma capital performance is poorer under extreme scenarios than previously anticipated, the ratings could be downgraded.
The ratings could also be downgraded if financial leverage increases structurally from current levels (34%).
Conversely, if Italy's sovereign rating is upgraded, Generali's ratings could be upgraded should its capital ratios (both actual and pro-forma as calculated by Fitch) also improve.
Generali is the parent company and main operating entity of one of Europe's largest insurance groups. Total group-wide life sales in 2011 were EUR46.6bn. It holds a dominant position in Italy through its ownership of INA Assitalia and Alleanza Toro. Generali is also well established in Germany (through Generali Deutschland), France (Generali Iard and Generali Vie), Spain (Generali Espana), Switzerland (BSI and Generali Switzerland) and central and eastern Europe through its joint venture, Generali PPF Holding.
Topgun1976
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Un mio conoscente che lavora in Bpm mi ha descritto Bonomi un Tagliateste..
Tagliateste o tagliagole?
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