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Ciao,
anche per me la clausola di conversione e' la principale differenza tra 127 e 587 e mi fa preferire la 587.
Leggendo pero' la "Description of the Capital securities" , pag.36 del prospetto 127 , mi pare che l'eventuale conversione non porterebbe il titolo ad avere le caratteristiche richieste da Basilea 3 e per questo penso che non possa essere utilizzata.
Nel dubbio ho comunque sempre acquistato la 587.
DESCRIPTION OF THE CAPITAL SECURITIES
The following summary sets forth the material terms and provisions of the Capital Securities.
General
The Issuer will, upon the occurrence of a Regulatory Event, convert the Securities into preference
shares or other instruments issued by the Issuer such to the discretion of the Issuer (the ‘Capital Securities’).
Subject to all laws, including the capital adequacy rules of the Dutch Central Bank, which may apply
to the Securities in order to be qualified as Tier 1 Capital on the date all necessary consents, approvals and
authorisations have been obtained by the Issuer and which may provide otherwise, the Capital Securities
are intended to provide the holders thereof, in all material respects with the same economic rights and
benefits as are attached to the Securities.
Distributions
Distributions on the Capital Securities will be payable on 31 March, 30 June, 30 September,
31 December of each year after the Conversion Date (each a ‘Distribution Payment Date’) and be
calculated on the same economical basis and provisions as the Coupon Rate is calculated in respect of the
Securities.
The Issuer may defer distributions on the Capital Securities,subject to the suspension of payments on
the Issuer’s ordinary shares and/or preference shares, (1) upon the occurrence of a Regulatory Event
(Required Deferral) or (2) at its discretion elect to do so for any period of time (Optional Deferral).
Subordination
The Issuer's obligations under the Capital Securities will constitute direct, unsecured and subordinated
obligations of the Issuer. The rights and claims of the holders of the Capital Securities will be
subordinated to the claims of Senior Creditors, senior to Junior Securities and pari passu with the most
senior preference shares of the Issuer.
Ranking
In a winding-up of the Issuer, the Capital Securities will rank pari passu with the most senior
preference shares of the Issuer.
ti ringrazio della risposta. Io ho più 587 rispetto alla 127 per le altre cose di cui scrivevo e che tu conosci benissimo. A mio parere comunque se ING dovesse callare lo farà sia per la prima sia per la seconda . praticamente lo stesso discorso delle 2 BPVN sulle quali ho sondato presso il desk di verona dove sono abilitato e mi hanno detto che non dovrebbe esserci nessuna differenza nella ottica Basilea 3 anche se strettamente attenendosi ai prospetti una è con step up e l'altra invece senza .
ciao e grazie ancora