Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 1 (3 lettori)

[maxolone]

A pensare male potrei sospettare che lavori per RBS...il che sarebbe proprio un bel guaio...

Ciao a tutti,

vi segnalo due nuove emissioni, so che sono un pò diverse da quelle di cui si sta parlando, ma forse a qualcuno potrebbero interessare (anche per diversificare):

RBS N.V. (rating S&P A+) quoterà da giovedì 17 febbraio sul MOT le obbligazioni senior RBS 5 e 30 (codice ISIN NL0009694272, durata 10 anni, cedole semestrali), 5,30% fisso annuo e RBS Sterlina 5 e 80 (codice ISIN XS0574620513, durata 10 anni, cedole semestrali), 5,80% annuo.

 

[Zorba]

Eurohypo Capital Funding Tr. 1 (WKN 542376, ISIN XS0169058012) - Profil - Aktien, Aktienkurse - ARIVA.DE

EUROHYP.C.F.TR.II 05/UND. (WKN A0DZJZ, ISIN DE000A0DZJZ7) - Profil - Aktien, Aktienkurse - ARIVA.DE


probabilmente questa torna a pagare cedola


Commerzbank Suffers Setback In QVT Lawsuit On Coupon Payments



FRANKFURT (Dow Jones)--Germany's Commerzbank AG (CBK.XE) suffered a setback Tuesday when a regional court in Frankfurt ruled that New York-based private equity group QVT is entitled to around EUR20,000 in coupon payments for some profit-sharing securities issued by Commerzbank's Eurohypo real estate financier.
While small in value, the verdict could eventually pose a larger problem for Commerzbank as it will likely be monitored closely by other hedge funds and investors considering a similar lawsuit against Germany's No. 2 listed bank.
A spokesman for Commerzbank said the bank will examine the verdict closely, adding that it reserves the right to appeal the verdict at a later stage. A spokesman for QVT in Frankfurt said the hedge fund is happy about the verdict, but will also examine the reasoning given by the court more closely.
The lawsuit concerns three profit-sharing securities issued by Eurohypo, which was taken over completely by Commerzbank in 2008. According to the Frankfurt court, Eurohypo will have to repay the three securities at face value upon redemption, rather than cutting the face value by a single-digit percentage rate as the bank did in February 2010 after suffering a loss for 2009.
Additionally, the court ruled that for two of the three profit-sharing certificates, or Genussscheine, Eurohypo will have to make a coupon payment for 2009.
QVT filed a suit against Eurohypo for not paying out dividends on profit-dependent securities in 2009. Commerzbank had argued no dividend payments were possible because Eurohypo posted a loss for 2009, while the hedge fund had argued that due to a domination agreement Commerzbank would have to cover all losses at the unit





Commerzbank Suffers Setback In QVT Lawsuit On Coupon Payments - WSJ.com



sui siti tedechi denaro a 54 per la irs da 47 dove l'ho venduta é un ulteriore +15%

Che incaxxatura tripla... Era un titolo che mi piaceva e in più lo dicevo già dall'anno scorso 'sta cosa delle cedole...

Dovrei credere maggiormente nelle mie scelte...

 

[Zorba]

Prezzi:
BACA 4K8 60.60.5
BACA W79 59-59,5
Hybrid USD 26-27
Dexia CL 50-51
AIB LT2 12.5% 23-24
BOI LT2 10% 62-63

 

[Léon D.]

A pensare male potrei sospettare che lavori per RBS...il che sarebbe proprio un bel guaio...

Per fortuna no!

Speravo solo di fare una cosa utile a qualcuno.
(ma tu lavori per nordbank?)

 

[discipline]

WestLB's paper created some confusion in Brussels
BRUSSELS (AFX) - The German redevelopment proposals for the three alternatives with WestLB in Brussels have caused confusion. The European Commission confirmed on Wednesday that Germany had two restructuring plans submitted by the deadline. Then, that was raised in Germany of three proposals, the speech, rejected the spokeswoman for EU Competition Commissioner Joaquin Almunia every comment. Almunia will speak on during the day to do so. According to previous information, the National Bank expect to July with a decision from Brussels to the renovation plan.

Instead of a concept of the federal government, the Westphalia and savings banks to European competition watchdogs three options for WestLB's future were presented. This involves a sale of WestLB, a further reduction and conversion to a savings bank central bank. According to EU diplomats, it is very unusual that a number of options instead of a clear plan to arrive in Brussels.

If we succeed in finding a solution is not to threaten the country's once largest bank in the worst case, the settlement. In the EU capital will have long been openly debated through the shut down. The EU believes that WestLB on removal of problem papers aid worth of 3.4 billion € has received. Therefore requires a new Brussels restoration plan that goes beyond existing EU regulations. If Brussels does not accept the rescue plan, the state bank would have to pay back the subsidies - which the bank would probably not überleben. / mt / DP / stk


Vedo che non sono l'unico a non avere le idee chiare bisognerà capire chi è che metterà mano al portafoglio.. nel mentre le quotazioni rimangono lì dov'erano..

 

[Zorba]

Eurohypo Capital Funding Tr. 1 (WKN 542376, ISIN XS0169058012) - Profil - Aktien, Aktienkurse - ARIVA.DE

EUROHYP.C.F.TR.II 05/UND. (WKN A0DZJZ, ISIN DE000A0DZJZ7) - Profil - Aktien, Aktienkurse - ARIVA.DE


probabilmente questa torna a pagare cedola


Commerzbank Suffers Setback In QVT Lawsuit On Coupon Payments



FRANKFURT (Dow Jones)--Germany's Commerzbank AG (CBK.XE) suffered a setback Tuesday when a regional court in Frankfurt ruled that New York-based private equity group QVT is entitled to around EUR20,000 in coupon payments for some profit-sharing securities issued by Commerzbank's Eurohypo real estate financier.
While small in value, the verdict could eventually pose a larger problem for Commerzbank as it will likely be monitored closely by other hedge funds and investors considering a similar lawsuit against Germany's No. 2 listed bank.
A spokesman for Commerzbank said the bank will examine the verdict closely, adding that it reserves the right to appeal the verdict at a later stage. A spokesman for QVT in Frankfurt said the hedge fund is happy about the verdict, but will also examine the reasoning given by the court more closely.
The lawsuit concerns three profit-sharing securities issued by Eurohypo, which was taken over completely by Commerzbank in 2008. According to the Frankfurt court, Eurohypo will have to repay the three securities at face value upon redemption, rather than cutting the face value by a single-digit percentage rate as the bank did in February 2010 after suffering a loss for 2009.
Additionally, the court ruled that for two of the three profit-sharing certificates, or Genussscheine, Eurohypo will have to make a coupon payment for 2009.
QVT filed a suit against Eurohypo for not paying out dividends on profit-dependent securities in 2009. Commerzbank had argued no dividend payments were possible because Eurohypo posted a loss for 2009, while the hedge fund had argued that due to a domination agreement Commerzbank would have to cover all losses at the unit





Commerzbank Suffers Setback In QVT Lawsuit On Coupon Payments - WSJ.com



sui siti tedechi denaro a 54 per la irs da 47 dove l'ho venduta é un ulteriore +15%

E' quello che potrebbe succedere a Ovag se davvero riprendesse la cedola. Incrementato il TF a 62

 

[riccio43]

BOS se puoi mi dai due denari operativi
rbz xs0173287882
sns xs0172565482
grazie

 

[Metriko]

Quote iw delle 11:00

Boi lt2 62-64

Bcp844 57-59

Bpce558 100,6-100,7

Westlb fh1 (€) 25-26

Westlb 340($) 26-27

 

[riccio43]

A pensare male potrei sospettare che lavori per RBS...il che sarebbe proprio un bel guaio...

ma no. Questo e' un covo di lupi figuriamoci se si fa infinocchiare da RBS con i suoi Top inverse, 8% - euribor ecc.Invece la segnalazione e' buona basta
prenderne un po' verso la fine del collocamento poi di solito........... salgono ancora un po'

 

[Zorba]

ma no. Questo e' un covo di lupi figuriamoci se si fa infinocchiare da RBS con i suoi Top inverse, 8% - euribor ecc.Invece la segnalazione e' buona basta
prenderne un po' verso la fine del collocamento poi di solito........... salgono ancora un po'

riccio, mi offendi...

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