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Vet

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io francamente se devo rischiare il mio capitale per intero, piuttosto che le Tier 1 di banche al limite del colasso di uno stato di fatto fallito com'è quello Greco .......vado su Bes o Bcp .....qualità banche migliori o comunque di gran lunga meno peggiori......i uno Stato che , almeno fino ad ora non ha tarrocato i bilanci., o almeno non e stato beccato
 

stordits

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Europe’s top banking regulator is drawing up options to help banks in Europe struggling to tap credit markets for medium and long-term funding.

Among the policy proposals being considered by the European Banking Authority is a new guarantee scheme for bank bonds, a controversial measure that would require the eurozone’s €440bn bail-out fund to be given new powers.

The EBA proposals are expected to be presented to a meeting of senior European officials next week. Even before submitting its analysis, however, the EBA is facing stiff resistance from some member states unwilling to reopen a deal struck last month, which would give the bail-out fund – formally the European financial stability facility – new but less expansive powers.

BaFin, the German financial regulator, on Tuesday took the unusual step of speaking out against a separate mooted plan to give the EFSF powers to inject capital directly into banks. Under the July agreement, the EFSF would only be able to recapitalise banks through loans to governments.

“The EBA has no powers under current European law to concern itself with these questions,” a BaFin spokesman said.

The EBA firmly rejected media speculation that it was calling for a recapitalisation of European banks, as first suggested by Christine Lagarde, the head of the International Monetary Fund, in a speech over the weekend. The EBA insists that its pan-European bank “stress tests” in July revealed that most lenders had significantly strengthened their capital buffers and would be able to withstand a severe shock.

However, it said it was concerned about medium- and long-term liquidity – an issue that has spooked financial markets and saw bank stocks plummet earlier this month.

“Going forward it will be important that normal access to medium- and long long-term funding markets is restored,” the EBA said.

Several European banks have had difficulities in raising long-term funding over the past three months, and have increased their reliance on the European Central Bank.

Italian banks, for example, nearly doubled their usage of ECB funding facilities to €80bn in July – the highest since the crisis began, according to a recent report by Morgan Stanley.
 

Zorba

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io francamente se devo rischiare il mio capitale per intero, piuttosto che le Tier 1 di banche al limite del colasso di uno stato di fatto fallito com'è quello Greco .......vado su Bes o Bcp .....qualità banche migliori o comunque di gran lunga meno peggiori......i uno Stato che , almeno fino ad ora non ha tarrocato i bilanci., o almeno non e stato beccato

Si, e' vero il PG e' meglio della Grecia, pero' la Grecia riesce cmq ad attrarre investitori (vedi Alpha-Efg).

Io preferisco parcellizare la quota distressed su piu' fronti. Va da se' che sarebbe meglio lasciar perdere tout court le P distressed o cmq dei Piigs. O forse sarebbe meglio ancora prendere coraggio e abbandonare l'asset class delle P (io non ci riesco:wall:).
 

Zorba

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Several European banks have had difficulities in raising long-term funding over the past three months, and have increased their reliance on the European Central Bank.

Italian banks, for example, nearly doubled their usage of ECB funding facilities to €80bn in July – the highest since the crisis began, according to a recent report by Morgan Stanley.
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Non e' una bella notizia...
 

marketa

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Scusa ma si parlava di BNP e Cn Assic. o qualcosa di simele o sbaglio? Non Group!

Per Groupama, forte esposizione titoli di stato clubmed, non accantonata (Lagarde lo ha rimarcato ancora due giorni orsono).
Temo che non abbiamo visto ancora il peggio sui conti Groupama (la pentola a pressione prima o poi........:down:).
 

amorgos34

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Per Groupama, forte esposizione titoli di stato clubmed, non accantonata (Lagarde lo ha rimarcato ancora due giorni orsono).
Temo che non abbiamo visto ancora il peggio sui conti Groupama (la pentola a pressione prima o poi........:down:).

E' quello che temo anch'io.
L'ADC è invece è ormai quasi certo, e per noi perpetualisti è una bella notizia.

Visto il Paese che c'è dietro per me (ripeto IMHO ) è,comunque, il miglior investimento (prezzo-rischio)al momento.
Al limite Sarko la fa digerire a BNP...;)

Visto il prezzo e visto che il mercato ha ragione fino a prova del contrario suggerisco cautela.Nessuno regala niente.
 

fidw99

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Europe’s top banking regulator is drawing up options to help banks in Europe struggling to tap credit markets for medium and long-term funding.

Among the policy proposals being considered by the European Banking Authority is a new guarantee scheme for bank bonds, a controversial measure that would require the eurozone’s €440bn bail-out fund to be given new powers.

The EBA proposals are expected to be presented to a meeting of senior European officials next week. Even before submitting its analysis, however, the EBA is facing stiff resistance from some member states unwilling to reopen a deal struck last month, which would give the bail-out fund – formally the European financial stability facility – new but less expansive powers.

BaFin, the German financial regulator, on Tuesday took the unusual step of speaking out against a separate mooted plan to give the EFSF powers to inject capital directly into banks. Under the July agreement, the EFSF would only be able to recapitalise banks through loans to governments.

“The EBA has no powers under current European law to concern itself with these questions,” a BaFin spokesman said.

The EBA firmly rejected media speculation that it was calling for a recapitalisation of European banks, as first suggested by Christine Lagarde, the head of the International Monetary Fund, in a speech over the weekend. The EBA insists that its pan-European bank “stress tests” in July revealed that most lenders had significantly strengthened their capital buffers and would be able to withstand a severe shock.

However, it said it was concerned about medium- and long-term liquidity – an issue that has spooked financial markets and saw bank stocks plummet earlier this month.

“Going forward it will be important that normal access to medium- and long long-term funding markets is restored,” the EBA said.

Several European banks have had difficulities in raising long-term funding over the past three months, and have increased their reliance on the European Central Bank.

Italian banks, for example, nearly doubled their usage of ECB funding facilities to €80bn in July – the highest since the crisis began, according to a recent report by Morgan Stanley.

il punto della debolezza del sistema bancario è proprio questo, non si tratta di capitalizzazione ma di mancanza di fiducia e quindi di problemi di funding con spread che sono saliti e non rendono economicamente conveniente accedere al mercato dei capitali

è un punto importante da risolvere in fretta per non entrare in quella spirale negativa che ci ha portato fino al marzo 2009
 

Topgun1976

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Mah la situazione è di stallo discesa,le borse hanno recuperato qlc le P sono scese continuamente.
Se arriva un'altra ondata(Arriverà) le ritroviamo a prezzi ottimi

Ieri ho preso un secondo cip di Baca e oggi un cip di Baw966
Fà gola la Bpvn e anche Uc Intesa ,Group la Lascio a voi,qlc non quadra su quella emittente(ricordiamoci che è francese,tutte le francesi sono buone tranne lei?qlc non quadra)
 
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