Hello! I am new to this board and I don't speak italian well. Please tell me if I am welcome nevertheless.
What do you think of the WestLB hybrids: 8% $ XS0216711340 and 6% € DE000A0D2FH1?
Both vest a silent partnership in the core bank of WestLB. While loss-sharing and not cumulative, they are pari passu with the new silent partnership of the german Bank-rescuing agency SoFFin. The german-bad Bank law is very favorable to rescued banks as banks owners have to take the losses but not the bank or their preferred securities or silent partnerships. So coupons will continue to pay with a very attraktive current yield.
Here are the prospetuses:
http://www.wertpapier-forum.de/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=46990
and
http://www.wertpapier-forum.de/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=46991
Greetings from Berlin,
DanteAllemis
hi, you are welcome and thank you for your suggestion.
I am intrested with this bonds of westLb .
we've already asked some question to the Investor relation of the bank.
the investor relation said that if they will close the year in loss, no coupon will be paid, and they will also use the loss absorbtion option....
the situation is not clear for me in this moment.
It is important to know if there will be any cost with the new plan.
in particular they want to give €85 billion of asset to the bad bank . but i don't now if there will be any cost over it....
anyway i already have the two silent participation of the bank....
i hope that they will continue to pay, but i am not sure over it.
i don't know why, but in my mind i also think that maybe they will close the year with a big loss, because of the cost of the rescue plan.
however the price in this moment is really very actractive
this part of your topic is very interesting
they are pari passu with the new silent partnership of the german Bank-rescuing agency SoFFin
i read that the Soffin can change is silent partecipation in shares.
"The SoFFin will in a first step take a silent participation to the value of €3billion in the WestLB core bank which from 01.07.2010 can be converted to shares."
but if they take the silent partecipation, i think they will like to receive coupon, and if they pay coupon to the soffin in turn they will pay us.