Obbligazioni societarie Monitor bond Telecom Europa VI (gennaio - luglio 2009)

ciao Mark (ovviamente l'invito è rivolto a tutti)
ho cominciato a mollare parte del tf per passare al tv, e leggendo in qua e in là ho visto che conosci qualche emissione telecom a tv
hai qualche isin per noi mortali che non possono operare con 50k e nemmeno sui mercati otc?
ho provato sul tlx... invano (a parte kpn2009 che ormai non ha più senso)

Ciao Carlo... sul tlx non ti so dire sul momento cosa ci sia... ma se fai ricerca su OnVista ce ne sono di sicuro diverse sia di Telefonica che di Vodafone... così che tu possa sceglierne in considerazione anche della lunghezza, del taglio, della cedola, oltre che della composizione del tuo portafoglio... io però, se posso darti un consiglio, guarderei (sempre tramite OnVista) anche ad emittenti come DT e France Telecom, avendo l'impressione che un po' di snobismo verso il TV in queste settimane possa avere livellato qualche rendimento...

Se il differenziale fosse contenuto, è più conservativo prenderne di queste ultime due che delle prime due...:)
 
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tlx nada
mi applico prof, vado alla ricerca
grazie mille per il consiglio (di questi tempi condivido di rimanere sulle ultime 2 vista la partecipazione statale)
thanks
 
tlx nada
mi applico prof, vado alla ricerca
grazie mille per il consiglio (di questi tempi condivido di rimanere sulle ultime 2 vista la partecipazione statale)
thanks

ciao
come è andata la tua ricerca, io ho provato su onvista.de ma con il tedesco non ci capisco nulla
come corporate ho trovato 7 bond
2 Ge( ma ce ne sono molti di +)
2 di enel
1 volkswagen
1 stm
1 metro
(parlo di bond con taglio di 1000 euro)
tu hai trovato altro?
grazie e saluti
 
British Telecom lancia un profit warning che consente di proiettare uno sguardo sul Q3/2008 (che per BT è l'ultimo dell'anno). In estrema sintesi i problemi (e non di poco conto) sono legati soprattutto all'andamento della divisione Global Services (della quale si era già parlato in precedenza), per la quale si è verificato un robusto calo dell'EBITDA, passato da 215 mln GBP a 17 mln GBP y-o-y (era 119 mln nel quarter precedente) mentre le altre divisioni di BT avrebbero visto una crescita dell'EBITDA y-o-y nell'ordine del 5%.

Se tanto mi dà tanto, va a finire che alle telecom europee IG la crisi dell'ultimo trimestre del 2008 gli ha fatto un baffo... :D

Ulteriori dettagli sulla vicenda Global Services nella Bloomberg qui di seguito...

BT warns again on Global Services

By Maggie Urry

Published: January 22 2009 08:11 | Last updated: January 22 2009 15:49


BT Group, the former British Telecommunications, warned on Thursday that profits from its Global Services division had tumbled and its efforts to get to grips with the problems would lead to a £340m write-off.

The charges could be even higher, it said, and another “substantial” write-off could result from talks over two large contracts. An operational review of the division, which provides telecom and IT services for multinational companies and government departments, could led to yet more “substantial” charges for reorganisation and rationalisation to cut the cost base.
Ian Livingston, BT chief executive, warned that as a result, group profits for the third quarter to December 31 would be lower, although BT’s other divisions would edge profits higher by 5 per cent. (ndr: ciò che cresce del 5% è in realtà l'EBITDA y-o-y, come precisato nel comunicato rilasciato da BT)

http://www.btplc.com/News/Articles/Showarticle.cfm?ArticleID=554f8eff-be2a-4ff2-9b81-b3915a6a70ef



BT shares plunged 12.9p or 10.5 per cent afternoon trading in London to 110.1p, making them the biggest fallers on the FTSE 100 index of blue-chip stocks. The company was privatised in November 1984 at 130p a share.

Since the write-offs in Global Services were non-cash items, BT said they would not affect the decision on the final dividend, which will be made at the year-end. Analysts have been fearful of a cut in the payment, which has been a prop to the shares.

BT first warned in November that profits at Global Services were falling sharply and instituted the review. Previously the division had been seen as the engine of growth for the group, but while revenues rose quickly, a plan to lift profit margins stalled.

In the second quarter the division achieved earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation (ebitda) of £119m. But BT said that would fall to around £17m, before the charges, in its third quarter to December 31. That compares with £215m in the same quarter of the previous year.

Morten Singleton, an analyst at Oriel Securities, said: “Far from the second-quarter clear-out at Global Services being the kitchen-sinked affair we had believed, BT has today come come out with a further profit warning and one-off charges galore.”

He said the writedowns would “merely add to the market concerns over the cash requirements of the pension deficit and the size of the likely decline in the dividend.”

After the problems were discovered last autumn, BT replaced the head of the division with Hanif Lalani, who had been the group’s finance director. Mr Livingston said Mr Lalani’s first job, alongside Tony Chanmugam, the new finance director, was to review the financial position of the division and its major contracts.

The division has always been proud of its work for leading organisations, which include the UK’s National Health Service and the Department for Work and Pensions, and companies including Thomson Reuters, Procter & Gamble, Fiat, and Nestlé.

However, it has now reviewed the assumptions used when it valued the contracts and as a result reduced their worth.

“Ongoing commercial discussions in respect of two of our largest contracts are likely to be completed during the fourth quarter. These may result in further substantial one-off non-cash charges in the current year,” it said.

BT declined to name the contracts and said the size of the write-offs would depend on the outcome of the discussions.

The group is known to have had severe problems in delivering a £2.5bn contract which is part of a £12.7bn programme to shift NHS patient records to an electronic database. The contract is years behind schedule and BT gets paid only when systems are shown to be working.

The problems at Global Services are aside from a plan announced in November to cut 10,000 jobs aimed at reducing BT’s cost base by £1.25bn.

BT said the group’s net cash outflow in the third quarter would be £32m, a £189m improvement, and net debt would be around £11.1bn
 
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Completata la vendita del proprio 50% in Vodacom al partner Vodafone, l'ex incumbent sudafricano Telkom disporrebbe di liquidità adeguata ad acquistare un operatore di telefonia mobile o a sviluppare una rete mobile per conto proprio.

Nel primo caso, secondo voci di mercato riprese dalla Reuters, potrebbe esserci un interesse a rilevare Cell C, il cui azionista di riferimento Oger Telecom potrebbe essere interessato a vendere, dopo aver inutilmente provato a formulare un'offerta per l'acquisto dell'intera Telkom, offerta rigettata dai sudafricani.

S.Africa Telkom buys rest of Multi-Links for $130 mln

  • Reuters, Thursday January 22 2009
* Buys 25 percent of Multi-Links for $130 million
* Part of African expansion strategy
* Shares up 1 percent, outpace weaker market
(Adds CEO quote, analyst, shares)
By Gugulakhe Lourie

JOHANNESBURG, Jan 22 (Reuters) - South Africa's Telkom bought the 25 percent of Nigerian firm Multi-Links it did not already own for $130 million as it seeks to offset sagging revenues at home by expanding elsewhere in Africa.

South Africa's biggest fixed-line phone operator bought the private telecommunications operator from Kenston Investment Ltd. The deal was effective from Jan. 21, it said on Thursday.

Multi-Links, which operates a fixed wireless network on the CDMA platform in Nigerian cities, acquired a licence in 2006 to offer voice, Internet and data services.

The Nigerian cell phone market, the most populous and lucrative in Africa, is far from reaching saturation. It is also one of the world's fastest-growing telecoms markets, with a penetration rate of just 30 percent compared with 76 percent in the more developed South African market.
"Our 100 percent ownership of Multi-Links, therefore, not only meets Telkom's broader investment criteria but also provides us with the opportunity to expand our mobile capability," Telkom CEO Reuben September said in a statement.

Telkom is selling its 50 percent stake in mobile phone operator Vodacom to Britain's Vodafone for 22.5 billion rand ($2.23 billion). The sale will provide Telkom with a war chest of more than 10 billion rand, which it wants to use to become Africa's leading fixed, mobile and data service provider.

The sale will give Telkom the cash to possibly buy outright another mobile operator -- some analysts have speculated it might look at South Africa's No. 3 operator Cell C -- and further invest in its African operations.

News of the acquisition helped boost shares in Telkom, which had gained 1.09 percent to 112.72 rand by 1414 GMT, outperforming the Top-40 index, which was down 1.42 percent.

Rajay Ambekar, a telecoms analyst at Cadiz African Harvest, said the acquisition of the 25 percent stake made strategic sense but that Telkom may be paying over the odds.

"The price it paid seems a bit steep," he said, noting the Nigerian naira had weakened substantially against the dollar in recent months and that telecom assets have fallen in value given the global financial crisis.

In May 2007, Telkom acquired 75 percent of Multi-Links for $200 million.
"I guess they have to show us why they have overpaid," Ambekar said. "But with 100 percent control they can probably do various things that can increase the value of Multi-Links."

Multi-Links increased its subscribers to 2.11 million by Oct. 31 from 1.78 million a month earlier. It benefited from the launch of broadband EVDO, an equivalent of 3G technology.

MTN, Sub-Saharan Africa's biggest mobile phone operator, has more than 18.6 million subscribers in Nigeria, its biggest market.

Telkom is also expected to make an announcement about the sale of part of its stake in pay-TV division Telkom Media by the end of this month.

Telkom, which has a 66 percent stake in Telkom Media, said in June it was selling its stake and had identified a potential investor to buy a substantial portion of it. (Reporting by Gugulakhe Lourie and Serena Chaudhry, editing by Will Waterman)
 
Ciao Carlo... sul tlx non ti so dire sul momento cosa ci sia... ma se fai ricerca su OnVista ce ne sono di sicuro diverse sia di Telefonica che di Vodafone... così che tu possa sceglierne in considerazione anche della lunghezza, del taglio, della cedola, oltre che della composizione del tuo portafoglio... io però, se posso darti un consiglio, guarderei (sempre tramite OnVista) anche ad emittenti come DT e France Telecom, avendo l'impressione che un po' di snobismo verso il TV in queste settimane possa avere livellato qualche rendimento...

Se il differenziale fosse contenuto, è più conservativo prenderne di queste ultime due che delle prime due...:)

scusa Mark, ma su TLX di DT e France telecom vedo solo obbl. TF? E' mai possibile?
 
scusa Mark, ma su TLX di DT e France telecom vedo solo obbl. TF? E' mai possibile?

Quelle a tasso variabile le distingui in quanto contrassegnate su OnVista dalla sigla EO-FLR (dove FLR sta appunto per a tasso variabile...) e ce ne sono eccome... su Deutsche Telekom sono in cima alla lista di quelle in Euro, subito dopo alcune emissioni in USD... ;)
 
Quelle a tasso variabile le distingui in quanto contrassegnate su OnVista dalla sigla EO-FLR (dove FLR sta appunto per a tasso variabile...) e ce ne sono eccome... su Deutsche Telekom sono in cima alla lista di quelle in Euro, subito dopo alcune emissioni in USD... ;)


non discuto Onvista ...dicevo TLX
 
E anche BT va in creditwatch negative a causa delle inattese svalutazioni intervenute alla revisione del valore dei contratti presso la divisione BT Global Services e dei costi di ristrutturazione che occorreranno per far sì che utile e margine operativo presso tale divisione possano tornare a crescere.

I parametri finanziari attuali, specie il leverage e il FOCF rapportato al debito netto, sono deboli per la conservazione del rating corrente: un loro eventuale ulteriore indebolimento condurrebbe dunque ad un downgrade.

BT Group PLC And Subsidiaries 'BBB+' L-T Ratings On CreditWatch Negative On Trading Review; 'A-2' S-T Ratings Affirmed

LONDON (Standard & Poor's) Jan. 22, 2009, Standard & Poor's Ratings Services said today it placed its 'BBB+' long-term corporate credit ratings on leading U.K. telecommunications provider BT Group PLC (BT) and wholly owned subsidiary British Telecommunications PLC on CreditWatch with negative implications. This action follows the release of BT's update on reviews being carried out in its BT Global Services division, along with details of trading in the third quarter of financial 2009 (ending March 31, 2009). At the same time, the 'A-2' short-term ratings on BT and British Telecommunications PLC were affirmed.

"The CreditWatch placement reflects our near-term concerns for the
weaker-than-expected EBITDA and profit margin performance at BT's Global Services division for the second quarter running," said Standard & Poor's credit analyst Michael O'Brien. "The reassessment of contract values and challenges related to obtaining cost efficiencies, and the costs associated with achieving a steadier state for this division, could adversely affect our assessment of BT's overall business risk profile.

This is because the projected growth in cash flow generation at BT Global Services--which so far has faced falling EBITDA for the first nine months of financial 2009 of about 43%--represents an important support to the BT's ratings in the future.

"Potential cash outgoings for the restructuring of BT Global Services
and, importantly, any additional outgoings arising from an unfavorable outcome from BT's upcoming triennial pensions review, could result in additional funding requirements, as in previous years. These elements could lead us to lower the ratings by one notch."

The ratings on BT continue to be supported by the group's substantial
market positions in the U.K. fixed-line and broadband markets, and by its
ongoing focus on operating efficiency. These strengths underpin substantial free operating cash flow (FOCF) generation, albeit that this likely to be lower in financial 2009 versus the prior year. Such strengths are set against intense competitive pressures, including pricing and product convergence, as well as moderate margins.

BT's adjusted debt was £16.1 billion at Sept. 30, 2008. Current credit metrics, including adjusted debt to EBITDA at 2.8x and FOCF to adjusted debt at 9.8% for the 12 months to Sept. 30, 2008, are weaker than our long-term expectations for the ratings and do not provide rating headroom for further deterioration.

"To resolve the CreditWatch, we will factor in the group's business plan, operating performance, and financial strategy for financial 2010 and beyond. We expect the latter to include developments related to the pensions review, capital expenditure plans, and the stance of the BT board on dividends," added Mr. O'Brien.
 

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