Imark

Forumer storico
Scusa, Mark, ma possono imporre un rimborso a 40? Non è illegale? Riesci a recuperare la notizia dello scambio di Bité? Grazie :)

Per essere precisi, comincio con il dire che quella del rimborso a 40 è una cosa che si è vista per Bité, Eircom è in una situazione paragonabile per certi versi a quella di Bité dal punto di vista del tipo di operazione (un Leveraged Buy Out o LBO) che la ha caricata di debito.

Però non è affatto detto che finisca per Eircom come per Bité, è solo un rischio che facevo presente io...

Se vogliono, tecnicamente è possibile lanciare un'offerta volontaria di riacquisto a 40 condizionandola al fatto che aderisca il 98% del capitale obbligazionario e facendo presente che se non ci sono le adesioni, la società va in default.

A quel punto... :)

Ad ogni buon conto, per Eircom al problema del debito si è aggiunto quello di una voragine aperta nella copertura del fondo pensionistico dei dipendenti a causa dell'essere questo investito in una certa misura in azioni... :cool:

Eircom owners cut value of company by €720m


DAVID LABANYI

The Australian owners of Eircom have cut the value of their investment in the telecoms company by more than €700 million, acknowledging that they overpaid for the business when they bought it for €2.36 billion less than three years ago.

Babcock Brown Capital (BCM) has written off €720 million of the value of their investment in Eircom due to a deterioration in the outlook and the telecoms firm’s increasing pension deficit. Eircom has a deficit of €433 million in its pension scheme.

BCM purchased Eircom for €2.36 billion less than three years ago. Eircom today reported a 3 per cent fall in group revenue to €517 million for the three-month period to the end of December.

Fixed-line revenues were down 3 per cent to €404 million due to falling prices while ebtia from this arm of the business was down 7 per cent at €136 million.

Revenues at Eircom’s mobile phone unit Meteor rose to €129 million, up 6 per cent on the comparable quarter from the pervious year. Ebtia for Meteor for the period was €28 million, 8 per cent higher than the corresponding period.

At the end of December Meteor had 1.02 million customers, up 49,000 over the first six months of the year. Average monthly revenue per user (APRU) was €38.54, down 5 per cent for the second half of the year compared with the same period in 2007.
 

Imark

Forumer storico
Ecco la notizia di Bité ... lì in realtà il riacquisto era stato offerto a 35/100, causando un downgrade delle agenzie per le quali, se l'offerta andrà in porto, si tratterebbe di un distressed exchange.

In realtà, come leggi, a fronte di adesioni richieste pari al 90% degli obbligazionisti, fino a qualche gg fa solo il 45% aveva accettato. Credo dunque si andrà ad un default.

Moody's reviews Bité for downgrade; PDR lowered to Ca

London, 18 February 2009 -- Moody's Investors Service today downgraded the probability of default rating of Bité Finance International B.V to Ca from Caa2. This is in response to the tender offer by Bité Finance International (Cayman) Ltd ("Bidco") to purchase the EUR 110 million senior subordinated floating rate notes due 2017 (issued by Bité Finance International B.V) at a price of 35% of par value. Moody's also placed the company's ratings on review for downgrade.

The tender offer -- which has already been accepted by approximately 45% of note holders, but is conditional upon 90% acceptance - would result in note holders receiving an early and certain return of cash in exchange for accepting a material discount to the par value of the notes. Although the notes do not have a near-term maturity, Moody's believes that a primary purpose of the offer is to reduce Bite's overall debt burden and cash outflows, which it considers to be unsustainable and likely to result in a default. Furthermore, in conjunction with the tender offer, Bité has requested changes to the covenant and security package of the subordinated notes (requiring 50% approval for changes to covenants and 90% approval for changes to security).

Note holders who do not tender could thus be left in a materially disadvantageous position. Moody's thus regards the transaction as a distressed exchange, which is deemed to represent a default by Moody's. The company's PDR has thus been downgraded to Ca, to reflect the strong likelihood of the transaction closing and the deemed default occurring.

Moody's understands that, to purchase the notes, Bidco will be financed by Bité's sponsors. Although Moody's current expectation is that a material amount of the purchased notes will be cancelled, the post-exchange capital structure is currently uncertain.

The Ca PDR will prevail during the tender process. Upon the tender closing, the PDR will be repositioned to Ca/LD to reflect the limited default that will then have occurred. The "/LD" suffix will be removed after three business days, at which time it is also anticipated that Moody's ratings review will be updated or concluded. The review will include Bité's PDR and other ratings being repositioned to levels appropriate for the company's circumstance, taking into account the definitive outcome following the exchange transactions.

The last credit rating announcement for Bité was on 10 December 2008, when the CFR was lowered to Caa2 with a negative outlook.

Bité Finance International B.V. is the Dutch holding company of the Lithuanian company Bité Lietuva UAB. Bité is a mobile telecommunications operator in Lithuania and Latvia, which reported 2008 service revenue of about EUR 188 million. In February 2007 a private equity consortium led by Mid Europa Partners acquired Bité through a leveraged buyout for a total consideration of EUR 443 million.
 
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qquebec

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Per essere precisi, comincio con il dire che quella del rimborso a 40 è una cosa che si è vista per Bité, Eircom è in una situazione paragonabile per certi versi a quella di Bité dal punto di vista del tipo di operazione (un Leveraged Buy Out o LBO) che la ha caricata di debito.

Però non è affatto detto che finisca per Eircom come per Bité, è solo un rischio che facevo presente io...

Se vogliono, tecnicamente è possibile lanciare un'offerta volontaria di riacquisto a 40 condizionandola al fatto che aderisca il 98% del capitale obbligazionario e facendo presente che se non ci sono le adesioni, la società va in default.

A quel punto... :)

Ad ogni buon conto, per Eircom al problema del debito si è aggiunto quello di una voragine aperta nella copertura del fondo pensionistico dei dipendenti a causa dell'essere questo investito in una certa misura in azioni... :cool:

Eircom owners cut value of company by €720m


DAVID LABANYI

The Australian owners of Eircom have cut the value of their investment in the telecoms company by more than €700 million, acknowledging that they overpaid for the business when they bought it for €2.36 billion less than three years ago.

Babcock Brown Capital (BCM) has written off €720 million of the value of their investment in Eircom due to a deterioration in the outlook and the telecoms firm’s increasing pension deficit. Eircom has a deficit of €433 million in its pension scheme.

BCM purchased Eircom for €2.36 billion less than three years ago. Eircom today reported a 3 per cent fall in group revenue to €517 million for the three-month period to the end of December.

Fixed-line revenues were down 3 per cent to €404 million due to falling prices while ebtia from this arm of the business was down 7 per cent at €136 million.

Revenues at Eircom’s mobile phone unit Meteor rose to €129 million, up 6 per cent on the comparable quarter from the pervious year. Ebtia for Meteor for the period was €28 million, 8 per cent higher than the corresponding period.

At the end of December Meteor had 1.02 million customers, up 49,000 over the first six months of the year. Average monthly revenue per user (APRU) was €38.54, down 5 per cent for the second half of the year compared with the same period in 2007.


Quindi, secondo te, è meglio stare alla larga da Eircom? E' un titolo che ho pescato consultando le raccomandazioni di Jyske.com. Conosci questo sito?

Per Bité ho visto che l'operazione riguarda il bond "subordinato" da 110 milioni, ma non quello "non subordinato" da 190. Quindi, in teoria, se l'operazione non va a buon fine, potrebbe fallire solo il bond subordinato?
 

Imark

Forumer storico
Quindi, secondo te, è meglio stare alla larga da Eircom? E' un titolo che ho pescato consultando le raccomandazioni di Jyske.com. Conosci questo sito?

Per Bité ho visto che l'operazione riguarda il bond "subordinato" da 110 milioni, ma non quello "non subordinato" da 190. Quindi, in teoria, se l'operazione non va a buon fine, potrebbe fallire solo il bond subordinato?

Il sito qui dentro lo conosciamo in tanti per alcuni picks quali Ineos, NXP, Bank Turanalem, Mechacrome per i quali i simpatici danesi hanno consigliato l'acquisto a prezzi molto alti per poi cambiare la raccomandazione quando i bond scambiavano a prezzi infimi...

Compra a molto e vendi a poco, dopo averci rimesso un bel 80% (quando va bene...).

Come tutti i siti, va tenuto d'occhio, però le loro raccomandazioni vanno scrutinate e dunque accettate o respinte in base a fattori ulteriori di valutazione, non seguite...
 

lorenzo63

Age quod Agis
Telecom France

Profit netto - 35% (comunque si tratta sempre di 4,07 mld euro!)


France Télécom's Reinvention Runs Into Setbacks
France Télécom reported solid 2008 results Wednesday, saying revenues grew as more customers signed up for its broadband and wireless offerings.

The results are a sign that Chief Executive Didier Lombard's strategy of pushing into new services has helped offset revenue losses in the firm's traditional fixed-line phone business. Yet key elements of his approach are now being challenged by French regulators over concerns that they limit consumer choice and damp competition.

At issue is Mr. Lombard's practice of acquiring the exclusive rights to content and technologies -- such as the Saturday night game of France's wildly popular soccer league and Apple Inc.'s iPhone -- as a way to attract and retain customers
The approach has sparked a backlash among its competitors -- led by entertainment-and-telecom giant Vivendi SA and Internet upstart Iliad SA -- which began filing court challenges and lobbying the government. They argue that France Télécom is using its dominant position and revenue from its telecom business to compete unfairly in the media-and-entertainment arena.

In recent months, regulators and courts in France have started to agree. Two key decisions -- on the iPhone and exclusive content deals -- have gone against Mr. Lombard.

France Télécom's woes underscore the difficulty telecom firms face as they search for new business models to offset the decline of their historical fixed-line telephone businesses. Although Mr. Lombard has taken a more aggressive approach to services and content than most, other U.S. and European telecom operators have tried to branch out into media and entertainment. In France, operators face bigger hurdles because regulators are more concerned about potential limits on consumer choice and intervene more aggressively in the telecom market.

Despite the challenges, telecom operators are actually faring better than most sectors in the current economic downturn because they have a huge base of customers paying monthly fees. France Télécom on Wednesday said revenue grew 1% to €53.49 billion ($67.32 billion) and reported €8 billion in free cash flow.

Net profit fell 35% to €4.07 billion, largely because of a goodwill write-down on its activities in Spain, higher taxes and other charges.

France Télécom's problems with regulators began in December, after mobile competitor Bouygues Telecom filed a complaint to France's Competition Council. The council ruled that France Télécom's exclusive deal with Apple to sell the iPhone unfairly limited consumer choice.

The council ordered the market for the iPhone opened, paving the way for Vivendi's mobile-phone unit SFR and Bouygues to start selling the iPhone as early as April. One analyst estimated that the loss of exclusivity on the iPhone, which was supposed to last five years, could take some €200 million in revenue away from France Télécom.

Then, in late February, the Commercial Court of Paris ruled that France Télécom's exclusive deal to broadcast the Saturday night headline match of France's wildly popular soccer league violated consumer-protection law.

France Télécom offers the match to subscribers of its "triple play" packages of TV, telephone and Internet. Competitors Iliad and Vivendi's Neuf Cegetel unit argued that it wasn't fair consumers had to subscribe to France Télécom's triple-play offer to see the game. The court agreed, ruling that France Télécom's soccer offer violated a ban against so-called linked sales. Under French consumer-protection law, a company can't bundle two products together and sell them as a package if they aren't each also sold separately. France Télécom has filed an appeal.

Despite the setbacks, Mr. Lombard said he isn't rethinking his strategy. "We've attracted 300,000 subscribers to our sports and cinema offers in the past six months. People like the service," he said in an interview. "Our competitors are seeking refuge with judges, but eventually they'll have to deal with how technology is transforming the market."

Mr. Lombard said he will continue to press his case to French competition authorities that the telecom and media landscape is changing so quickly that old rules must be adapted. "If there isn't a certain amount of exclusivity permitted, there will be no innovation," he said. Bertrand Meheut, the head of Vivendi's pay-television unit Canal Plus, said that France Télécom's approach "penalizes consumers and limits their choices." "The business model at Canal Plus is also built on exclusive content, but unlike France Télécom, we make it available on all technology platforms and through any operator."

The debate is likely to continue. In mid-February Canal Plus filed a complaint to the competition council about France Télécom's exclusive content deals. And on Monday, Vivendi filed a complaint to European Union regulators charging France Télécom of abusing its dominant position. Iliad also joined the complaint.
 

lorenzo63

Age quod Agis
Quindi, secondo te, è meglio stare alla larga da Eircom? E' un titolo che ho pescato consultando le raccomandazioni di Jyske.com. Conosci questo sito?

Per Bité ho visto che l'operazione riguarda il bond "subordinato" da 110 milioni, ma non quello "non subordinato" da 190. Quindi, in teoria, se l'operazione non va a buon fine, potrebbe fallire solo il bond subordinato?

:D:D..Se cerchi un' attimino quelli di Jiske furono definiti in modo quasi furor populi in modo simpatico ma ben chiaro circa la loro "affidabilità :down::down:"...:lol::lol:
 

Imark

Forumer storico
Avrei voluto postare un po' di indicazioni sull'andamento di Cell C ... so che ha diffuso i risultati ma non ve ne è traccia in rete, se non per queste considerazioni sul livello elevato del debito nell'ambito del contenuto di una conversazione fra il CEO di Cell C ed un giornalista che ne riferisce in un suo articolo.

Chi rammenta un po' la situazione di Cell C quando era più facile leggerne in giro, ricorderà che i problemi della terza telecom sudafricana sono due: 1) un alto leverage dovuto ad un forte indebitamento nei primi anni di vita di Cell C, in cui scelte imprenditoriali sbagliate hanno a lungo ritardato il raggiungimento di un pareggio operativo e costretto la proprietà a sostenere l'attività di Cell C mediante continui finanziamenti e 2) il fatto che il debito obbligazionario, anch'esso importante, è tutto denominato in valute forti come Euro e USD, mentre i ricavi sono realizzati in ZAR, con la conseguenza che la svalutazione dello ZAR contro queste valute ha pesato drasticamente sul costo di servizio del debito.

Il risultato è che, sebbene la società abbia raggiunto un utile operativo dopo il cambio del management, i suoi conti restano in profondo rosso per il peso degli interessi sul debito.

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Cell C's sea of debt

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By DUNCAN McLEOD

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Jeffrey Hedberg has done a great job of turning mobile operator Cell C around. But the company is drowning in a sea of debt not of his making. Hedberg thinks Telkom should buy the company. Telkom shareholders might be horrified at the prospect.
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Hedberg, a former senior Deutsche Telekom executive with many years' experience in telecommunications, has done a great job of taking the fight to Cell C's bigger rivals, MTN and Vodacom. He has grown the company's market share through aggressive but clever tariff plans and he has made the operator a much more formidable competitor in SA's telecom industry.

But there are big problems, which he readily admits are beyond his control. By far the biggest of these is the company's debt nightmare - it's not known how deep in the hole Cell C really is because it doesn't report details about its real profitability - but it owes its financiers many billions of rand. Interest payments, denominated in dollars and euros, run into hundreds of millions of rand every year.

As a result, the company has never reported a net profit. Operationally it is in the black, but its debt mountain means it's unlikely to turn a real profit for many years to come.

Hedberg conceded to me over lunch last week that something has to be done - and urgently - about the situation. Unfortunately, restructuring Cell C's debt has become a lot more difficult given the worsening global financial situation. An equity infusion from the shareholders - Saudi Telecom-controlled Oger Telecom (which holds a controlling 75% stake) and empowerment group CellSaf (25%) - seems to be the only feasible option right now.

But even that may prove difficult. Negotiations are under way between Oger Telecom and CellSaf - which itself consists of 32 shareholders - about how to resolve the debt problem. However, one has to wonder how keen Oger is on recapitalising its only African asset. And CellSaf is anything but cash-flush.

There is another option - selling Cell C to Telkom. It's an option that appeals strongly to Hedberg. The fixed-line operator, hurting from rampant copper theft in its fixed-line division and from robust competition in broadband from Vodacom and MTN, is keen to enter the mobile space, and is already building a 3G network in SA's urban centres. It plans to launch full mobile services after it has disposed of its 50% stake in Vodacom.

It's difficult to know if it makes financial sense for Telkom to buy Cell C given the lack of information about the extent of the mobile operator's debt. Needless to say, if Cell C weren't drowning in debt, it would be a no-brainer for Telkom to use part of the proceeds of its sale of Vodacom - estimated at about R10bn - to buy the company.

"It would make strategic sense for both parties," Hedberg says. "It would give us in-country scale, access to a company with a strong balance sheet, a company that is strong in the corporate segment, and it would give us access to a company with leased lines that we'd need to carry [network traffic to] our base stations.

"On the other hand, it gives Telkom an opportunity to play in the wireless space," he says. "Telkom doesn't have a lot of experience there. A go-it-alone strategy is tough."

Cell C could also help Telkom expand in mobile elsewhere in Africa.

Hedberg says the timing is "perfect" for a deal. "I'm sure the competition commission would approve the transaction. But in these markets will [the shareholders] ever agree on a price?"

Were the deal to happen, it would realign SA telecoms - in a positive way. It would create three powerful operators in Telkom, Vodacom and MTN, with smaller players Neotel and dark horse Dimension Data's Internet Solutions, to keep them in check. Let's hope it happens.
 

Imark

Forumer storico
Le misure annunciate dal management di telecom italia, ed in particolare il taglio del dividendo e l'attenzione ai costi sul mercato domestico, sono parse convincenti a S&P che ha affermato il rating BBB/stable.

In una fase in cui il bollettino settimanale delle rating actions delle agenzie ricorda da vicino la Gazetta dei Downgrade, è una circostanza che non può che far piacere agli obbligazionisti.

Bernabé ragiona bene, come al solito; auspicabile che la politica non lo metta alla porta.

Telecom Italia SpA 'BBB/A-2' Ratings Affirmed On Dividend Cut; Outlook Stable

MADRID (Standard & Poor's) March 3, 2009--Standard & Poor's Ratings Services said today that it affirmed its 'BBB' long-term and 'A-2' short term corporate credit ratings on Italy's leading telecoms services provider Telecom Italia SpA (TI). The outlook is stable.

The affirmation follows the group's communication, on Feb. 27, 2009, of its 2008 results, and a significant cut (about 37% compared with the previous year) to its 2009 dividend payment. "The affirmation acknowledges TI's dividend cut initiative and some initially encouraging operating trends during the latter part of 2008," said Standard & Poor's credit analyst Leandro de Torres Zabala.

"At this stage, these favorable developments mitigate, in our view, the company's continuing underlying domestic operating pressures, sizable cash tax payment obligations in 2009, and busy refinancing schedule."

"Nonetheless, at the 'BBB' rating level, and considering the difficult economic and financial environment, we expect the group to continue reducing leverage through organic cash flow generation and asset disposals and to stabilize its domestic operating performance, as further unforeseen operating pressures or macroeconomic deterioration in Brazil--a key driver for future growth according to the company's 2009-2011 strategic plan--could erode operating trends and, in turn, financial flexibility," said Mr. de Torres Zabala.

We also factor in expectations that the company will be able to stabilize the deterioration of its cash flow measures that began three years ago, through, among other things, an acceleration of cost cutting, and to continue improving the performance of its Brazilian business.

Rating pressure will build if earnings and cash flows, particularly domestic, deteriorate beyond our expectations, the Brazilian operations are affected by unexpected financial turbulence, or if the regulator undertakes further significant adverse initiatives such as the segregation of the local-loop infrastructure. On the other hand, rating flexibility could build if the company successfully reduces leverage through organic cash flow generation and/or the disposal of noncore assets.
 

ZYGMUNT

Forumer attivo
Le misure annunciate dal management di telecom italia, ed in particolare il taglio del dividendo e l'attenzione ai costi sul mercato domestico, sono parse convincenti a S&P che ha affermato il rating BBB/stable.

In una fase in cui il bollettino settimanale delle rating actions delle agenzie ricorda da vicino la Gazetta dei Downgrade, è una circostanza che non può che far piacere agli obbligazionisti.

Bernabé ragiona bene, come al solito; auspicabile che la politica non lo metta alla porta.

Sperem.
D'altra parte non dimentichiamo che erogare dividendi per l'investitore significa semplicemente spostare denaro da una propria tasca all'altra propria tasca.
Con l'effetto che se la società erogante versa in situazione finanziaria non buona (eufemismo), si tratta essenzialmente di un atto masochistico in quanto non si tratta più di gioco a somma zero, giacchè si priva la società di risorse essenziale per il proprio sviluppo.
In tale situazione la politica di alti dividendi diventa un vero proprio boomerang anche per il piccolo investitore
 

Imark

Forumer storico
Sperem.
D'altra parte non dimentichiamo che erogare dividendi per l'investitore significa semplicemente spostare denaro da una propria tasca all'altra propria tasca.
Con l'effetto che se la società erogante versa in situazione finanziaria non buona (eufemismo), si tratta essenzialmente di un atto masochistico in quanto non si tratta più di gioco a somma zero, giacchè si priva la società di risorse essenziale per il proprio sviluppo.
In tale situazione la politica di alti dividendi diventa un vero proprio boomerang anche per il piccolo investitore

Non sempre ciò che nell'immediato è buono per l'obbligazionista è buono anche per l'azionista... pensa non solo al taglio del dividendo per preservare la liquidità (così da irrobustire taluni parametri a tutela dei creditori e quindi anche dei bondholders) ma anche all'AdC ... diluisco gli azionisti e mi procuro liquidità, se la utilizzo per esigenze legate alla tutela degli obbligazionisti (vedi sopra), ecco allora che la misura penalizza gli uni a beneficio degli altri.

Il tutto sempre nell'ottica del breve termine: nel lungo termine l'interesse di azionisti e bondholders tende ad essere molto più convergente...
 

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